Precedent for Aspie-only bars
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Yeah that's it.
Might want to install a sensory room or just make the entire place a huge sensory room. Lava lamps squishy balls and what not.
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I'd also refer those discussing this concept to this classic (but very good) thread:
Spread AS awareness through an ASPERGER-THEMED RESTAURANT!!
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Yeah that's it.
Might want to install a sensory room or just make the entire place a huge sensory room. Lava lamps squishy balls and what not.
If it had a sensory room I would probably go there. There's this place called Infinity which is basically like a sensory maze/mini sensory theme park, it's one of my favourite places in the world to go to, its a few hours south of me by train and bus. I go there regularly. I don't know if I'd go to an aspie friendly bar or not, if it was even slightly bar-like I probably wouldn't. Although I actually really enjoy doing things with friends, going to friends places, and even house parties, I always feel tense and stressed in public places, especially if they are crowded or noisy (I buy takeaway food quite often I rarely ever eat at a restaurant unless I have to). I hate bars and clubs, can't even go in most of them at night because the noise is unbearable. Even when I once went by myself to a more open air club for an early dinner at 5pm, and there was virtually no one there, and I sat by myself in with a meal and my book, a guy deliberately sat next to me and started hitting on me, so I had to bolt down my food and leave. Every time I go to a club or bar I get hit on. It's like if you go to one of these places you're automatically fair game no matter what signals you're sending out. Even if the bar was Aspie friendly it could still be crowded and I could still get hit on.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 697469.stm
Surely this opens the door for Aspie only bars with NT's banned? Look at the justification: "the move would stop groups of heterosexual men and women abusing gay people" and especially: "Civil liberties groups said homosexuals should be allowed to relax in places without fear of bullying or intimidation. "
Those on the autistic spectrum also have the same right to be allowed to relax in places without those fears. God knows most of us have experienced enough "bullying and intimidation" trying to get by in the NT world.
So would any of you go to an AS only bar? Or would your evening be incomplete and unfulfilling without the presence of NT's?
Why not just have a private club? You'd have a key accessed private lodge for members only, like any fraternal organization has. Membership would be restricted to people with autism. Of course the lodge would cost a lot of money, so you'd have to charge membership dues, and get enough members.
We need an aspie bar!
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^^^^^And I thought *I* was the one who talked so much about this sort of thing.....
I ever asked about it in the poll to mark my 1,000th post....
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt229379.html
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Our first challenge is to create an entire economic infrastructure, from top to bottom, out of whole cloth.
-CEO Nwabudike Morgan, "The Centauri Monopoly"
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Firaxis Games)
You would have big TV screens, like sports bars, but they would show reruns of Carl Sagan narrating "Cosmos".
The bouncer at the door would ask questions like "What was Captian Kirk's middle name?" before allowing admittance. But they would immediately wave in guys with pocket protectors, or any guy with a shirt half tucked in, and half tucked out.
Just thinking aloud here...trying to imagine this venue, and how it would work.
I googled for how the gay bar plans to enforce this policy (not explained in the OP's linked article) and they said that asking is exactly what they intend to do. I suppose they are counting on enough hetero people being unwilling to say "I am gay" just to get in so that it effectively enforces it. People lie about things all the time but I suppose they are counting on social conditioning to make that an exception. Perhaps it doesn't matter if the person getting in was lying about it. They would have to maintain the facade in order to not get kicked out and that in itself would achieve the bar's goals. The stated goal of the bar owner was to prevent gay people from being a "zoo exhibit" which is how they felt with straight people gawking at them.
Would it play out similarly in an autistic only bar (if found to be legal, which would depend on the country)? It could. Lying to get in would be similarly easy but entirely pointless. Anybody who lied to get in so that they could harrass the patrons would be thrown out. But a BAP introvert with no diagnosis ( ) who simply wanted a quiet place to have a beer while reading a book would be as harmless in a autistic only bar as a bi-curious person exploring their sexual identity would be in a gay only bar.
Have seen documentaries about the famous/notorious seventies' nightspot Studio 54 which was a unique combination of inclusive and exclusive. Everyone wanted into the place but they were very picky at the door about who got in. A bouncer explained that "I go for the right balance of everything- men/women, black/white, straight/gay."
The crowd itsself was vital to the scene and they went for a spicy combo of people.
A bouncer can see what your gender is and race is- and perhaps gays who went to New York discos in that day dressed flamboyantly- so maybe they could tell if you were gay at a distance instantly as well.
But as a rule- I dont see how you can tell if a stranger is gay or not. Nor if they are aspie or not- unless the person is a guy with one shirt tail tucked in, and the other not.
I'd rather attend a club, where nobody knows anyone else there to begin with, and everyone's extremely shy and can't make friends because of it. And they all have a little pressure behind them where they are pushed into doing small tasks with each other where you have to communicate, like ''communication exercises''.
And I didn't say ''Aspies only''. I meant ''shy people only'', meaning some could have an ASD, some could have social anxieties, some could be unconfident and have PTSD which affected their social skills, the list goes on.
I know the word ''pressure'' might sound awfully cruel to some introverts, but I'm a perfect example of an introvert myself, and I can honestly say that I do need a little push behind me to get me a bit further in life. It's hard to push myself. It's like standing near a deep pool, and I'm too unconfident to get into the pool so I just stand there, but if somebody else pushed me in, there wouldn't be a lot I could do about it. And once I'm in the swimming-pool I may be ready to take the next step, which is learn to swim. Same goes with socialising.
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Hell even an Otaku Bar would pwn!
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Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList
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