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CaptainTrips222
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04 Nov 2010, 2:12 pm

I'm actually going with autist.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:46 pm

I'm going with being both. I'm a bisexual, polyamorous, female Aspie.

Both are socially isolated. Both are seen as needing to be "cured." Both have people who fear and hate them. Both groups have support groups. Both have challenges about finding social acceptance. Both try to hide their "differentness" but often cannot. Both are often picked on and victimized in school or elsewhere. Both are at a higher risk of mental illnesses and suicide.

ASD's have a harder time handling the stresses of every day work and adjusting to social politics.

Homosexuals/Bisexuals cannot live their life as they wish in many places due to the fear of being fired or hurt.

ASD's have the advantage of it being seen as something that is not within their control and therefore is a condition that requires workplace accommodations.

Homosexuals are viewed as "choosing" this lifestyle and are therefore viewed as mentally or emotionally unstable for doing so.

Ultimately it sucks both ways right now.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:47 pm

Uh ...

Without growing up gay then rewinding and growing up autistic, how would one know?



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04 Nov 2010, 2:48 pm

Being a gay autist ?


Really, it depends on what you consider. Being autist is a disability, being homosexual is not so it's not going to be really hard to live with it in theory.

However, depending on where you live or your family, it may be pretty hard to be homosexual.
For example, if you are a teenager and your parents kick you off your home for that or try to make you change through therapies or think they can cure you just as we see people wanting to cure autism.

There are also country where you can be killed or put in prison for that.



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04 Nov 2010, 2:53 pm

Being both.


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04 Nov 2010, 2:54 pm

I think it's easier for people to imagine what it's like to be sexually attracted to someone (albeit not the same way that gay people do) than to imagine what it's like to be autistic.

It's never easy to be different, though.



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04 Nov 2010, 3:00 pm

wavefreak58 wrote:
Uh ...

Without growing up gay then rewinding and growing up autistic, how would one know?


I'm guessing, but I think I'm right. I'm not gay, but I noticed gays definitely have a place in this society, and aren't stunted socially (on a neurological level.) I'm basing this on my perception of how they're treated.



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04 Nov 2010, 3:00 pm

Depends on the location.

I've heard they percieve autism as a gift in Japan (read it somewhere, can't find it on internet anymore), it's a curse in atleast one of the South American countries (I think Nicaragua).

Being gay, i'd say Amsterdam here in The Netherlands - but that's changing alot the last years...
Worst could be where fundamentalistic Islam is practisized through for example the Sharia - some African countries and in the Middle East, oh and parts of South-East Asia.


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04 Nov 2010, 3:10 pm

I'm bisexual, and have asperger syndrome. its very hard for me to feel comfortable in my own skin, but the aspergers is alot easier to deal with since the most of sociaty thinks i am choosing to be Bi. and not aspergers


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04 Nov 2010, 3:26 pm

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
wavefreak58 wrote:
Uh ...

Without growing up gay then rewinding and growing up autistic, how would one know?


I'm guessing, but I think I'm right. I'm not gay, but I noticed gays definitely have a place in this society, and aren't stunted socially (on a neurological level.) I'm basing this on my perception of how they're treated.


That's mostly because you focus on your own society and cultural background. Some years ago, homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder and in some countries they are still being executed. They were also deporterd by the nazis just as mentally challenged people or jewish, etc... That's really a relative thing. :D



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04 Nov 2010, 3:34 pm

Is the prevalence of gays statistically different among Aspies compared to NTs?



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04 Nov 2010, 3:45 pm

Depends where you live and who you are.

One thing I've noticed, though, is that while homophobia is now considered bad in our society, discrimination against people on the spectrum doesn't get nearly as much attention, and therefore has comparatively little stigma attached to it. In fact, some people even consider said discrimination to be the norm.



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04 Nov 2010, 3:45 pm

Is it really necessary to figure this out? What's the point of such a comparison, other than to ascribe some arbitrary and probably biased value on your and other people's experiences?



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04 Nov 2010, 3:49 pm

Is it harder to be an apple or an orange?


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04 Nov 2010, 3:52 pm

Moog wrote:
Is it harder to be an apple or an orange?


An apple, because people keep getting you mixed up with a computer :P



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04 Nov 2010, 4:18 pm

And Orange is a mobile phone compagny. :lol: