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Is this video represent of Autism?
Yes 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
No 89%  89%  [ 16 ]
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18 Jul 2010, 6:34 am

Ohai I found this video on youtube, its called 'the autism scam' and it is represent of everything damaging to Autistic people

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHLy1caVqqw[/youtube]

I dont know where to start with this rubbish, they think autism is caused by Vaccines, and they think that if you dont want a cure for autism then your not autistic, and if your a six year old with poor language skills who probably doesent even know hes autistic, chances are you want a 'cure'.

On a lighter note, the song at the beggining is my theme for trolling furrys!



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18 Jul 2010, 6:58 am

what savage said was wrong, but i hate when people do that, they ask him about autism when he was talking about something else. thats annoying.

but the other crap about if you don't want a cure then you don't have ASD really anger me, if i don't want a cure it is call i love my self for me, and i wish not to be change.

the other thing is a 6 year old have poor language skills most likely he don't know he is autistic
i have two things to say to that bull s**t comment.

1, yes he is going to know he has autism if he hear the adults around him saying it and if he go to a school for kids with autism he will definitely hear it a lot. and there for he will know, would he understand what it is, maybe not i say maybe not because the age 6 kids normally don't do diagnoses reaserch, and most likely and very sad he might believe he is a bad person cause when most NT parents say their child have autism they be near tears :roll:

2. oh yeah idiots mostly all kids know and understand their diagnoses at 6 most of them don't they just want to be kids. me i learn more about my disorders when i became 18. i knew i had them but i didn't care.


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18 Jul 2010, 7:02 am

I dident know I had autism until I was around 10, sorry if i somewhat upset you



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18 Jul 2010, 7:05 am

Leekduck wrote:
I dident know I had autism until I was around 10, sorry if i somewhat upset you


oh know you didn't upset me i was preferring to what you said that they said.


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18 Jul 2010, 7:39 am

what I was meaning to say was that he probably has not said if he wants a 'cure for autism' or not



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18 Jul 2010, 8:08 am

Leekduck wrote:
what I was meaning to say was that he probably has not said if he wants a 'cure for autism' or not


ok :wink:


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18 Jul 2010, 8:18 am

Don't troll furries. What's the point? They didn't do anything to you. It's just Internet bullying.


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18 Jul 2010, 8:21 am

Callista wrote:
Don't troll furries. What's the point? They didn't do anything to you. It's just Internet bullying.


i don't see how was this a trolling question :roll: 8)

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18 Jul 2010, 1:28 pm

Well, that video is a bit confusing (no doubt because a moron made it)... because he titles the video The Autism Scam, then opens it with the Michael Savage segment stating that autism doesn't exist, but then he goes on to show his son doing exactly what Savage was talking about. So, I would assume that his son just needs a good spanking and there is his cure right there.

As to the middle section, I don't want to get anyone's panties in a knot, but most people who make videos about their own Asperger Syndrome are being complete boobs. Not all, just most. My reason is that AS is not a disorder that is easily observed or even easily described. If you want to write about it, then great, but the minute you put yourself on YouTube, you are saying "Watch me, I'm completely normal. I behave just like the next guy. Now let me tell you what's wrong with me." It doesn't give one much credibility.


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18 Jul 2010, 2:48 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Dw5YtkoPw

Just been searching and watching videos of Michael savage after watching your post and came across this one.

I mean I don't live in the area, or really know much about so wouldn't say im qualified to have an opinion but couldn't it at least be possible that he's onto something at least in some cases?
In some circumstances could children be misdiagnosed by psychologists either by accident/incompetence, or by schools who have a seperate vested interest?

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Thankyou MONIQUEIJ for the link to make it easier available :)



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18 Jul 2010, 3:01 pm

gassy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Dw5YtkoPw

Just been searching and watching videos of Michael savage after watching your post and came across this one.

I mean I don't live in the area, or really know much about so wouldn't say im qualified to have an opinion but couldn't it at least be possible that he's onto something at least in some cases?
In some circumstances could children be misdiagnosed by psychologists either by accident/incompetence, or by schools who have a seperate vested interest?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Dw5YtkoPw[/youtube]


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18 Jul 2010, 7:02 pm

Well, sadly, I think a lot of what he said was RIGHT! As for the asthma, HOPEFULLY most was simply because poorer areas had poorer food, dustier areas, etc.. and that aggravates asthma. As for Autism, he is probably right in MOST cases there. But WHO KNOWS?

BTW Disclaimer. I believe I am AS. I am over sensitive to stress, light, sound, smell, heat. I CAN'T STAND fire alarms. But I was treated officially as if I were normal. Everyone knew I was different, and I did. So my deficits weren't of any benefit to me. When the fire alarm rang, I held my ears because it was like needles sticking in my ears. Others didn't care at all. HECK, when I am LESS sensitive than others, for pain and cold, people think I am faking or STUPID. So I can't win either way.

The problem with autism is that some people DO use it as an excuse, and make the LEGITIMATE ones look phony.

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18 Jul 2010, 7:12 pm

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18 Jul 2010, 9:04 pm

Yes, she has a point that it hurts the type of PR she wants to do. After all, if you call yourself autistic and succeed, you do make it harder to convince the world that all autistics are broken and defective and need a cure.

Actually, when I phrase it that way, that's what I'm trying to do.

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me you can't tell what he's crying about? You mean to tell me you can't tell? Have you tried making a note of what days it happens on, and all the stimuli that were around? Seriously, it should be pretty obvious.

It's obvious to me that he didn't want the camera there.

Have you tried sign language? PECS? Typing?

If you can't even deduce the immediate cause of such an upset because he can't talk to you (that sounds rather Aspie to me, not being able to read body language and requiring explicit verbal explanation), how can you know that he would rather be NT? Huh? It's much easier to deduce something like "camera = bad" (I did, though I don't know that it's the cause of the upset; he seemed upset about something else, and the camera was the icing on the already awful cake) than complicated philosophy. And what about nonverbal autistics who, when given some way to communicate, do communicate that they're proud of being who they are?

Also, he's six. I don't claim to have cried for days when I was six, but I do claim to have grown since then. I do hope no one tries to argue that, since I can do something today, I was never unable to. People grow. NTs grow. Autistics grow. Everyone else grows, too.

@Monique, not that this is my conversation, but I think she's responding to his last comment about using this theme-song for trolling furries. I thought that meant furries who were trolls, but Callista interpreted it differently.

@dyingofpoetry, I think Savage was quoted as an example of the sort of misunderstanding we're supposedly creating,


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18 Jul 2010, 9:10 pm

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Yes, she has a point that it hurts the type of PR she wants to do. After all, if you call yourself autistic and succeed, you do make it harder to convince the world that all autistics are broken and defective and need a cure.

Actually, when I phrase it that way, that's what I'm trying to do.

Wait a minute. You mean to tell me you can't tell what he's crying about? You mean to tell me you can't tell? Have you tried making a note of what days it happens on, and all the stimuli that were around? Seriously, it should be pretty obvious.

It's obvious to me that he didn't want the camera there.

Have you tried sign language? PECS? Typing?

If you can't even deduce the immediate cause of such an upset because he can't talk to you (that sounds rather Aspie to me, not being able to read body language and requiring explicit verbal explanation), how can you know that he would rather be NT? Huh? It's much easier to deduce something like "camera = bad" (I did, though I don't know that it's the cause of the upset; he seemed upset about something else, and the camera was the icing on the already awful cake) than complicated philosophy. And what about nonverbal autistics who, when given some way to communicate, do communicate that they're proud of being who they are?

Also, he's six. I don't claim to have cried for days when I was six, but I do claim to have grown since then. I do hope no one tries to argue that, since I can do something today, I was never unable to. People grow. NTs grow. Autistics grow. Everyone else grows, too.

@Monique, not that this is my conversation, but I think she's responding to his last comment about using this theme-song for trolling furries. I thought that meant furries who were trolls, but Callista interpreted it differently.

@dyingofpoetry, I think Savage was quoted as an example of the sort of misunderstanding we're supposedly creating,


oh my mistake :oops:


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18 Jul 2010, 9:50 pm

Well I totally missed the point of the video. Was the author trying to say that autism is a scam? Or that people that don't want to be cured is a scam? Then he was trying to say that asthma was a scam, but asthma is an easily recognizable illness that can't be faked just by intentionally gagging.

As far as the one girl on there saying that only 1 in 12 want a cure, I'd say that's BS. I know there are people who don't want to be cured, but I think it is them who are in the minority. Why would any intelligent person want to be a social ret*d? Basically, that's exactly what I am because I have AS.