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05 Jan 2011, 8:50 am

I think i might have AS but what caueses some of us to have low muscle mass and tone?

1 year ago after working out at the gym for over a year my muscles were huge and everyone was impressed by my muscular build. i got kicked out 1 year ago becuase i ran out of my money and since then i have lost a lot of weight since a year ago i was 175 lbs and now i am 164 lbs at 5ft10.

It sucks i am so scrawny and everyone picks on me all the time because i look weak :(

what do you think causes muscle problems? its horrible its making me look like an easy target because i am skinny. when i built muslce at the gym no one would dare touch me.

i personally think people underestimate how strong i am because i can do over 100 pushups in 1 set.



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05 Jan 2011, 9:09 am

What is your body fat percentage?


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05 Jan 2011, 9:23 am

don't know my body fat percentage? i have lost a bit of weight recently since i had love handles before :)

it must be the AS causing the low muscle mass problem becasue i come from a family where the males are strong.

WaveFreak is their anything i can do about this maybe? I purcharsed this new item for christmas called 'The perfect pushup kit' hopefull if i keep working on my pushups with the machine i can start to build my muscle mass back up.

My muslce tone problems are so fustrating becuase it makes me such an easy target for my brother (who is a gym freak) to bully me. he did not bully me when i used to go to the gym.



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05 Jan 2011, 10:15 am

While it may be the case that AS is linked to some amounts of muscle atrophy or slow muscle growth the reason you got small is 'cause you are not eating. You have to be hypercaloric to gain and keep muscle mass. If you become hypocaloric the fat and subsequent muscle will fall off. If you lose weight rapidly, the muscle will fall off faster. This is basic physiology here. Happens the same for NTs. The difference is that AS people normally will forget to eat unless they promot themselves somehow.



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05 Jan 2011, 10:27 am

Hmmmm I am eating ok. i do sometimes take quite long breaks in between eating in the daytime though.



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05 Jan 2011, 10:31 am

You also need to be working out to keep muscle mass.


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05 Jan 2011, 10:35 am

Jamesy wrote:
don't know my body fat percentage? i have lost a bit of weight recently since i had love handles before :)


You can't really characterize your body mass without knowing your body fat percentage. The best way to do this is with calipers. BMI indexes are useless.

I bring this up because you are looking at yourself, your height and your weight and attaching this to your feelings about yourself. But you are not using any objective criteria. So you are in a sense mildly delusional about your body because you are taking a subjective approach and creating a feedback loop between your view in the mirror and your already present anxiety of body image. This subjectivity allows you to invent problems (the mildly delusional part) that may not even exist (such as it must be AS). As long as you maintain that loop, you will NEVER be satisfied with your body, height, weight or musculature. But if you start looking at it objectively (muscle mass, body fat, resting heart rate, etc) you can break the loop. You can begin to optimize the body you have, instead of stressing over the body you wished you had.

You need to find what YOUR body can do. I know some very small people that are amazing physical specimens. And some very large people that are basically pillows with bones.


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05 Jan 2011, 10:56 am

Wavefreak can you explain what you mean when you say 'I am mildly body dillusional'?


I admit feedback i get from certain people in real life about my appreance is different from how i view myself in the mirror. i think though the negative feedback i get is from immature cocky people.



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05 Jan 2011, 11:26 am

Jamesy wrote:
Wavefreak can you explain what you mean when you say 'I am mildly body dillusional'?


I admit feedback i get from certain people in real life about my appreance is different from how i view myself in the mirror. i think though the negative feedback i get is from immature cocky people.


Well, take it with a grain of salt because this is an internet forum and I'm not a therapist. But you consistently make posts about your body image. Too short, too skinny - whatever. You aren't too short. At 5'10 or 5'11 you are actually above average height. But you convince yourself that this is inadequate. It's not even inadequate for the NBA. Tyrone Bogues is 5'3".

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-shortest-nba-players.php

I say mildly delusional because you aren't looking at things realistically. Delusional has clinical meaning, and I'm not suggesting that. But you DO trap yourself in these irrational evaluations of body image, regardless of evidence to the contrary.


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05 Jan 2011, 1:03 pm

Must I go to a jim to work out?

Can't I just lift brix and heavy pipes
herein my room?


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05 Jan 2011, 1:16 pm

LittleTigger wrote:
Must I go to a jim to work out?

Can't I just lift brix and heavy pipes
herein my room?


Sure. Lift your little brother. Move the furniture. Whatever. :P


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06 Jan 2011, 3:30 am

Jamesy wrote:
Hmmmm I am eating ok. i do sometimes take quite long breaks in between eating in the daytime though.


Sorry sweetie, but if you are losing weight, you are eating LESS than you need to maintain. The scale weight and muscle mass falls downward is a result of not getting food. Either you are not eating what you think you are eating or you have a tape worm or some other medical condition and you should get to a Doctor.

This is called LAWS of Physiology, so not thinking you can really dispute it.



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06 Jan 2011, 11:32 am

Well I think what is happening is that i am loosing 'muscle' weight i gained from the gym. i think its a slow process because i had to leave the gym last May. I spent 2 years working out at the gym gaining all that muscle. like i say a year ago i weighed close to 177 lbs which looked a bit to heavy on a 5ft10 body if you know what i mean.

if i really did want to put on weight i would eat more but i don't want to look fat do i? If i started to pig out on food in about 3 weeks i would go from weighing 164 lbs to 173 lbs.

for 5ft10 164 lbs is healthy.

i admit though i do sometimes have irregular sleeping habits and sleep in too long during the daytime which could be contributing to the problem?



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06 Jan 2011, 11:33 am

Jamesy wrote:
Well I think what is happening is that i am loosing 'muscle' weight i gained from the gym. i think its a slow process because i had to leave the gym last May. I spent 2 years working out at the gym gaining all that muscle. like i say a year ago i weighed close to 177 lbs which looked a bit to heavy on a 5ft10 body if you know what i mean.

if i really did want to put on weight i would eat more but i don't want to look fat do i? If i started to pig out on food in about 3 weeks i would go from weighing 164 lbs to 173 lbs.

for 5ft10 164 lbs is healthy.

i admit though i do sometimes have irregular sleeping habits and sleep in too long during the daytime which could be contributing to the problem?


So if you are healthy, what's the problem?


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06 Jan 2011, 12:22 pm

Nothing really but its just in my friendship group to be considered 'strong' you have to be fat :)



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06 Jan 2011, 12:43 pm

Muscle does NOT magically drop off your body at the rate you are describing. You have to feed yourself the correct amount of calories per day to maintain scale weight in order to preserve muscle. Obviously if you are not lifting regularly the muscle will begin slowly to atrophy but not to the degree you describe. You are simply eating less than you burn by a some amount. If you do not want to get fat then start to increase calories slowly (like 200 kcal a day) and see how that pans out over the next 4 months. My guess is it will help some.

Because I am Aspie, I have to track the food that I eat daily in a program like Sparkpeople.com in order to stay an athlete. I have no normal sense of hunger and will not stop what I am doing to eat a lot of times.