is reading body language what makes you tired?
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Blue Jay
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What makes me tired is the energy that I put out to make myself interact with others. The fact that I have to constantly watch my own actions to be sure I do not do or say something that will make me look different, as well as that I do all the things that are correct and polite also wears on me.
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what do you mean when you say different? it takes enegry for me to figure out what to say, to start conversations and of course (in my case)
to make the effort to even speak ( social anxiety i guess) and to know what is a good answer to a question, what the expected answer is.
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lol...by different I mean:
* not caring to talk to other people in the first place, unless they share a common interest
* talking excessively about things that people don't care to hear about (like my interests)
* talking about things that are abstract to most people, but seem perfectly simple to me (like talking about science to almost anyone I know)
* being so wrapped up in my surroundings that I don't notice others
* blurting out things that one shouldn't normally say to another
* analyzing and pointing out the intricacies of human interaction (in other words, by most people's standards "over-thinking everything")
That's the short list...
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RAADS-R: 187.0
Language: 15.0 • Social Relatedness: 81.0 • Sensory/Motor: 52.0 • Circumscribed Interests: 40.0
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 165 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 47 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)
When I was young I found myself feeling very defensive and putting up a front, so that people would leave me alone. As I grow up I developed other ways to avoid dealing with reading people. I learned that no matter what others think, the only thing that matters is those I love the most, and of course -my self. When I walk though the mall for instance, on my way... I go directly to where I need to be and I look over the heads of everyone I walk by; to avoid them. Thats how I roll. I'm usually on a mission.
I love nature, my children and my dog, so out and about they are the center of my outer world.
Paying attention/connecting to my children is tiring! But then again all parents get emotionally drained sometimes.
Most mornings I hate going down to the bus stop with my youngest. I don't know what the hell to do.
I find myself staring, or talking endlessly as though I need to entertain them. I just humor myself and let everyone else now that I'm an awkward person. One good thing is, I have some awareness of the fact that I miss social cues. When people do give me odd looks; which is most of the time - I don't notice or I'll notice and then return to my own inner world without a care; and thats a good thing! I'm not here for them! I'm here to enjoy life!
I guess I should answer your question.
Social things that tire me out:
~Dressing for the occasion or even appropriately for weather etc... and then, the clothing is uncomfortable!
~Paying too much attention to myself... I'll focus on my walk, worrying about eye snot, the size of my butt or other features. I used to hold myself stiff and upright around people- I don't worry too much about my posture anymore unless I find it really necessarily.
~Changes in plans
~not being ready, others not ready in time.
There's more, I just can't think of them at the moment.
There are so many things about socializing that make me tired.
Trying to follow social rules and be polite and do what is expected of me.
Trying to read body language.
Trying to pay attention to my own body language so that people will be less likely to misinterpret it.
Faking facial expressions (like smiles) to put people at ease or appear more approachable or less bored/sad.
Trying to follow up with what's going on.
Trying to participate in social chit chat or coming up with something to say.
Trying to be ready to respond to both predictable and unpredictable comments or actions of others.
Dealing with sensory issues (lights, smells and sounds mostly).
Dealing with various emotions that surface in social settings.
Dealing with people's mean, rude (to me) or inconsiderate behaviors.
Being on alert about a possible meltdown (social situations sometimes cause me to have meltdowns and I'd rather leave before it happens than have a meltdown there).
The whole thing can be very exhausting, draining and unpleasant for me. I do okay with one on one, but the more people there are, the harder it gets for me and the more exhausting I'll feel afterwards.
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Blue Jay
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* not caring to talk to other people in the first place, unless they share a common interest
* talking excessively about things that people don't care to hear about (like my interests)
* talking about things that are abstract to most people, but seem perfectly simple to me (like talking about science to almost anyone I know)
* being so wrapped up in my surroundings that I don't notice others
* blurting out things that one shouldn't normally say to another
* analyzing and pointing out the intricacies of human interaction (in other words, by most people's standards "over-thinking everything")
That's the short list...
but how is that weird? i don't know how other people on the spectrum are, (i never met anyone whos on the spectrum, and im not an aspie myself)
but i don't think that sounds that weird, but on the other hand i constanlty think IM weird even when people tell me "no your not"
thanks for the replies, This is really fascinating.
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Same thing as me.
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This. Coupled with impulsive blurting sometimes meaning I state my first reaction while still trying to process something I saw or heard and potentially derailing the conversation for a bit because for some reason people occasionally seem to think I want to defend everything I say to the death.
but i don't think that sounds that weird, but on the other hand i constanlty think IM weird even when people tell me "no your not"
thanks for the replies, This is really fascinating.
No problem. It's hard to explain, but you can't exactly talk about how you analyzed the types of hugs that exist and the emotions that are attached to them so that you could better understand how a person feels toward you when they hug you without sounding a bit weird.
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RAADS-R: 187.0
Language: 15.0 • Social Relatedness: 81.0 • Sensory/Motor: 52.0 • Circumscribed Interests: 40.0
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 165 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 47 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)
OMG!! Me too!! When I was younger (even at times still), people would tell me that I would argue with a fence post. I just wanted them to see my point of view, but apparently that's not acceptable...lol.
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If I tell you I'm unique, and you say, "Yeah, we all are," you've missed the whole point.
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RAADS-R: 187.0
Language: 15.0 • Social Relatedness: 81.0 • Sensory/Motor: 52.0 • Circumscribed Interests: 40.0
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 165 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 47 of 200
You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)
Verdandi
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OMG!! Me too!! When I was younger (even at times still), people would tell me that I would argue with a fence post. I just wanted them to see my point of view, but apparently that's not acceptable...lol.
Yeah, that's probably part of the problem. I used to want to defend some things I said to the death, so there may be an expectation there.
I have the script thing going with interactions, and I used a script way out of context in a conversation (and I didn't even agree with what I said), and this was made into a huge conversation that I just wanted to end, and used by people who are just getting to know me to define my attitudes in a significant way. It's actually really frustrating.
The important lesson is: Less autopilot with new people.
That's it. STRESS. Thats what makes you tired. Your entire nervous and muscular systems are slightly tensed the entire time. By the time its over, you've expended as much energy as a ten mile hike.
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(Insert thing about 'autie not aspie' here despite not believing in the division, I just have a hard time somehow answering to 'aspie' when that's not the most general term so it doesn't include me and etc.)
For me what's tiring is the words. The words themselves. Using them is hard and understanding them is harder. I often just shut down on language entirely, and then what happens is I do perceive the body language and tone and stuff, which is easier for me than the language itself because it doesn't involve, well, words.
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