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11 Jan 2011, 10:17 am

I am 21 and because of my AS sometimes i do have tantrums.

my younger brother who is 18 a lot of the time talks to me like i am a child and it can be very annoying sometimes. it could be my AS or the fact that he loves me?

is thier a reason why he talks to me this way?



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11 Jan 2011, 10:22 am

Jamesy wrote:
I am 21 and because of my AS sometimes i do have tantrums.

my younger brother who is 18 a lot of the time talks to me like i am a child ...

I think many people believe others of us should just naturally "grow out" of being as we are.

We need mentors, not critics.


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11 Jan 2011, 10:23 am

I think he may have a biased viewpoint on your cognitive ability and doesn't realise you can understand just fine if he spoke to you like an adult.


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11 Jan 2011, 10:37 am

yeah i do not blame my brother really i suppouse we all make poor judgments



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11 Jan 2011, 11:09 am

Jamesy wrote:
I am 21 and because of my AS sometimes i do have tantrums.

my younger brother who is 18 a lot of the time talks to me like i am a child and it can be very annoying sometimes. it could be my AS or the fact that he loves me?

is thier a reason why he talks to me this way?


Because he's an ass?


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11 Jan 2011, 11:12 am

There is a difference between a meltdown and a tantrum. If you are throwing a genuine tantrum then he is treating you like a child because you are acting like a child. If you are having meltdowns and he is treating you like you are throwing tantrums then he needs to be educated as to the difference.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:12 am

LostAlien wrote:
I think he may have a biased viewpoint on your cognitive ability and doesn't realise you can understand just fine if he spoke to you like an adult.

I agree.

Sometimes people mistake certain autistic traits as immaturity, childishness, poor cognitive understanding or something else, even when those have nothing to do with it. They may misjudge our ability to understand what they say or our understanding of other things and therefore treat us like children or talk to us below our age level.

This used to happen to me all the time. People would treat me like a child or talk to me like I was a child. When I was 20 and had to quit music school the principal even asked me to have my mother phone them to confirm that I could quit, as if that was something I wasn't allowed to decide on my own like any other adult. :scratch:

Meltdowns are one of the things that many neurotypicals mistake for childishness, because they resemble tantrums. Tantrums and meltdowns appear very similar on the outside, but on the inside they are two completely different things. Autistic meltdowns are out of our control and happen when we get overwhelmed, while normal tantrums are intentional and often used by children to get their way or manipulate people. Maybe your brother doesn't realize that your meltdowns are not regular tantrums like the ones he sees children throw. Maybe if you or your parents explained this to him he'd understand better and start talking to you at a more age appropriate level.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:30 am

i do kinda throw tantrums like a child intentionally to manipulate my parents as well :(



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11 Jan 2011, 11:43 am

Jamesy wrote:
i do kinda throw tantrums like a child intentionally to manipulate my parents as well :(


That would make you an ass at these times.

It's interesting how those on the spectrum are not immune to using subtle dishonesty to manipulate others. It would appear that we are more human than not, in spite of our neurological make up.


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11 Jan 2011, 11:48 am

oh come on wavefreak we are humans :)



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11 Jan 2011, 11:49 am

Jamesy wrote:
oh come on wavefreak we are humans :)


Yes, but if a 21 year old human acts like a child then he cannot be upset that he is being treated like a child.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:51 am

Jamesy wrote:
i do kinda throw tantrums like a child intentionally to manipulate my parents as well :(


I have been told regularly "act as you want to be treated", it serves me well in many ways.


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11 Jan 2011, 11:56 am

I am sorry i just throw a bit of a tantrum sometimes becasue the world is complicated to me and there are so many injustices that i find hard to make sense off.



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11 Jan 2011, 11:57 am

Jamesy wrote:
oh come on wavefreak we are humans :)


Of course we are. Autism is is only a different mind, not a different species.


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11 Jan 2011, 12:14 pm

leejosepho wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
I am 21 and because of my AS sometimes i do have tantrums.

my younger brother who is 18 a lot of the time talks to me like i am a child ...

I think many people believe others of us should just naturally "grow out" of being as we are.

We need mentors, not critics.


So true.


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11 Jan 2011, 12:30 pm

Listen I am sorry guys but its very hard for me because I come from a family where i am virtually an alien becasue NO ONE except my dads cousin has actually got the proper disorder even if they show mild traits of it.