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Jamesy
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29 Jan 2011, 4:33 pm

Apparently in 2013 they will be eliminating the name of aspergers to autisim spectrum disorder on a severity scale.

what do you think about no longer reffering to yourself as an aspie?

If you want more info look it up on wiki.



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29 Jan 2011, 4:36 pm

They are not actually eliminating Asperper's, they are saying that it is not autism that is all.



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29 Jan 2011, 4:50 pm

This question is addressed in detail on the DSM V website, under the rationale tab in the Aspergers section. Here is a quote from the tab:

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Q.3. If Asperger disorder does not appear in DSM-V as a separate diagnostic category, how will continuity and clarity be maintained for those with the diagnosis?
The aim of the draft criteria is that every person who has significant impairment in social-communication and RRBI should meet appropriate diagnostic criteria. Language impairment/delay is not a necessary criterion for diagnosis of ASD, and thus anyone who shows the Asperger type pattern of good language and IQ but significantly impaired social-communication and repetitive/restricted behavior and interests, who might previously have been given the Asperger disorder diagnosis, should now meet criteria for ASD, and be described dimensionally. The workgroup aims to provide detailed symptom examples suitable for all ages and language levels, so that ASD will not be missed by clinicians in adults of average or superior IQ who are experiencing clinical levels of difficulty.

There may be some individuals with subclinical features of Asperger/ASD who seek out a diagnosis of ‘Asperger Disorder’ in order to understand themselves better (perhaps following an autism diagnosis in a relative), rather than because of clinical-level impairment in everyday life. While such a use of the term may be close to Hans Asperger’s reference to a personality type, it is outside the scope of DSM, which explicitly concerns clinically-significant and impairing disorders. ‘Asperger-type’, like ‘Kanner-type’, may continue to be a useful shorthand for clinicians describing a constellation of features, or area of the multi-dimensional space defined by social/communication impairments, repetitive/restricted behaviour and interests, and IQ and language abilities.


The way I read this is that the term Aspergers may still be used in clinical setting as they say here "Asperger-type". I believe this would be within the realm of the first paragraph that suggests that existing diagnoses of Aspergers should be absorbed into the proposed ASD. At this time high functioning autism is not an official diagnoses, but also a clinical term used to describe a type of Autism. I don't see a need for a personal change in the term Asperger or Aspie. I think those with HFA will continue to use that term to describe their type of Autism.



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29 Jan 2011, 4:55 pm

Nerdykid wrote:
They are not actually eliminating Asperper's, they are saying that it is not autism that is all.


This is incorrect.


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29 Jan 2011, 5:05 pm

Nerdykid wrote:
They are not actually eliminating Asperper's, they are saying that it is not autism that is all.

Actually they're planning to do the opposite, to lump Asperger's syndrome together with autism. People will no longer be diagnosed under the label Asperger's syndrome, but under autism. They find that Asperger's is so similar to autism that it would be better to diagnose it as autism than to keep it as a separate diagnosis like it is now.

Even though the diagnostic criteria will change, I believe that many people will still refer to themselves as aspies, at least for some time. The name will still exist even though it will no longer be used officially.



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29 Jan 2011, 5:14 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Apparently in 2013 they will be eliminating the name of aspergers to autisim spectrum disorder on a severity scale.

what do you think about no longer reffering to yourself as an aspie?

If you want more info look it up on wiki.


Hey, it's the 1,000,000th thread on this topic! You win! :roll:

Anyway, this is a good thing - Asperger's and HFA are and always have been the exact same thing, so it's good it'll be that way officially. Makes things much less confusing and much more logical.



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29 Jan 2011, 6:32 pm

I don't call myself an aspie or an autie.

Seeing how the Mayan calender ends on the 21st Decemeber 2012 then maybe Asperger's syndrome will ascend to a higher form of consciousness?
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29 Jan 2011, 10:38 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Jamesy wrote:
Apparently in 2013 they will be eliminating the name of aspergers to autisim spectrum disorder on a severity scale.

what do you think about no longer reffering to yourself as an aspie?

If you want more info look it up on wiki.


Hey, it's the 1,000,000th thread on this topic! You win! :roll:

Anyway, this is a good thing - Asperger's and HFA are and always have been the exact same thing, so it's good it'll be that way officially. Makes things much less confusing and much more logical.


Yes, I also agree it will be a good thing if the revisions go through, but technically from a diagnostic perspective Asperger's and HFA aren't always exactly the same thing because at this time, to be diagnosed with Autism and labeled as HFA you have to meet this requirement that isn't necessary for Aspergers:

B. Delays or abnormal functioning in at least one of the following areas, with onset prior to age 3 years: (1) social interaction, (2) language as used in social communication, or (3) symbolic or imaginative play.

They remove this delay or abnormal functioning requirement before age 3 in the proposed revision so everyone will fit in. This factor in itself can make some people with HFA and Aspergers quite different in the areas they excel in or have deficits in.

And in someways it may be even more confusing when the final provisions are approved, because some people will still refer to themselves as aspies or use the term aspergers and some people will still refer to themselves as having HFA and some of the newly diagnosed may refer to themselves as having Autism or HFA, without consideration to the Asperger or Aspie term.

At this time HFA is not a diagnosis, just a subclinical term with no strict definition, it usually indicates those that are diagnosed with Autism that have average intelligence or above and have mild impairments in functioning. In the post I made earlier in this topic, the quote I referenced above from the DSM V website suggests that the use of Aspergers as a subclinical term may continue after the final provisions of the DSM V go through. You may hear the term Aspie, Aspergers and HFA for years to come.



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29 Jan 2011, 10:45 pm

The name will still stick around, regardless of the officiality.



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29 Jan 2011, 10:45 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Apparently in 2013 they will be eliminating the name of aspergers to autisim spectrum disorder on a severity scale.

what do you think about no longer reffering to yourself as an aspie?

If you want more info look it up on wiki.


It won't make any difference; I will continue to refer to myself as either "Rachel" or "You Idiot". :)


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