Autism will bankrupt you.

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Virus of the Mind - Sometimes said as mind virus. In context I do not need others virus of the mind to assume a pathological \ medical label is my identity or my entire being.

Autism will bankrupt you for it's own self gain.

The tricky statement above I want you to say your honest feelings about the statement. Also I'd like to see how many of you come up with different ways of viewing the statement that is not based on your initial feelings. Failure to do so is potentially for the reasons of political interest, peer pressure and or honest inability to depersonalize the statements.

Please feel welcomed to participate and I won't put you down for disagreeing with my final analysis. I'm a good guy.

Nathan Young

Autism is not an entity with intention hence has no self nor can it gain or lose.

You are brilliant. But what else can the statement mean in all that it said.

The anthropomorphication of abstractions is not only an NT trait.

That's just your opinion. I go to my job each day and I give back to the economy, by spending my money.

Ah oh. Whose opinion is what. Autism is a label associated with government budgets for social services that also seek to create employment transitions. I wonder what Autism Speaks meant by the statement Autism will bankrupt you for it's own self-gain. I think they were making autism into something like the devil effecting people and the economy and let's just presume in the more severe manifestation of autism that prevent employment on average. They did so to create an awareness toward finding treatments to improve productivity in potential of individuals effected? Or simply to see it as this problem that they want to prevent from costing us all money?

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Abstract reasoning is an IQ measurement and I have both concrete and then extreme abstract abilities. Abstract abilities are more rare in autism but that does not make a lack of abstract abilities a defect to me. It allows me to perceive many possibilities in very simple things.

If Autism Speaks is using that phrase then it would appear they are as reckless with their rhetoric as ASAN.

Well yes and no. Each have their faults. I will explain in full several different interpretations to the I am Autism Video. But I want this statement people to comment about. How does it make people feel?

it already has.im not sure about this mind virus stuff but financialy i have bankruptd myself.maxed out 30,000 in credit cards,bought 2 20k lux cars all on a taxi drivers salary.i could have been a weathy man but i spent it all and i have no one but my self or autism to blame

"Mind virus" is a terrible metaphor. It implies that autism is nothing more than a thought disorder, something that can be corrected simply by changing beliefs, ideas and thoughts.

Autism is not in the mind. Autism is in the brain.

I think the point here is that "Autism will bankrupt you for it's own self gain" is a statement that is either evidence and/or an actual cause of a "mind virus".

OK.

Going with that.

A mind virus is still a terrible metaphor. A virus is a biological, disease causing agent. Ideas are not diseases. Using the word 'virus' unnecessarily invokes the negative connotations of disease. It is essentially an Appeal To Emotion, an attempt to inject a level of fear and disgust into a real problem. It is a real problem that many inhabitants of The Spectrum have difficulty managing their finances. Calling the problem a disease of the mind does nothing to help the issue and in fact reinforces negative self images.

It reminds me of the way people will spend lots of money pursuing a cure... most of it going to quacks. Not just money, either, but their child's childhood. They spend five thousand dollars on a special supplement when they could be buying their child a well-trained assistance dog... They spend a hundred dollars a week on special food when they could be buying their child a bookshelf and a steady supply of books, or a good collection of interesting, intellectually stimulating toys, or comforting stim things, or a weighted blanket, or a safe hideaway from the sensory chaos. They spend money on therapy and their child spends time in therapy when they could be spending that time interacting with the child, getting to know them, teaching them things, letting that child be a child... Not that therapy is useless; but like any kind of education, it should be done in moderation, giving the child enough time to grow on his own, in his own way, and explore the world--even if, for him, that means watching the dust motes in a sunbeam or rubbing his cheeks against a swatch of velvet or running in circles for an hour at a time...

So when I see that statement, I want to take out my red pen and correct it to read, "Refusing to embrace your child's autism will bankrupt you... and your child."

ROFL nuff said.

They weren't referring to financial bankruptcy-
they were referring to bankruptcy period.

Cause, ya know, Autism is an evil demonic presence lurking in the dark plotting to steal entire families away.

You may bankrupt yourself. You may become autism? Disorder may be your only order.

If that is the case, it is not autism that has expectations of you, but the psychiatric/medical community.

Rather than a virus, I'd say it's like the stock market. If you invest all your money into virtual commodities expecting to literally get it back in something real like bushels of wheat or gallons of petrol you'll be disappointed to see that you've gotten back exactly what you've put into it.

That metaphor needs work.