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09 Apr 2012, 9:46 am

I seem to have done so, though a lot of them are really branches from the one root obsession, but now I wonder if the multiplicity of obsessions actually disqualifies them as proper "obsessions" and I wonder what differentiates those from typical NT interests. They certainly all occupy a huge amount of braintime...



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09 Apr 2012, 9:49 am

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09 Apr 2012, 3:38 pm

I don't know what the demarcation between interest and obsession is or how many sub-interests are inconsistent with Aspergers. My question is prompted by what I have read seemingly implying that Aspies do only one thing all the time in all their free time. I have about 4 things I spend a lot of time thinking about now, 2 of them are continuing interests from childhood. I'm not sure how this fits my diagnosis.



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09 Apr 2012, 4:03 pm

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1. encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus


So, it's a specific interest that is either an unusual interest for people to have, or more intense than is usual.

For example, if you have multiple interests, each of which is something few if any people are interested in, that could count.

Or if you have a fairly common interest - let's say soccer - it might count if you're interested in it in an unusual way. For example, you've memorized every design of soccer ball, but have no interest in the actual game.



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09 Apr 2012, 4:20 pm

My impression is that different authors and/or diagnostic criteria have different interpretations.

Lorna Wing wrote about "intensely interested in one or two subjects, such as astronomy, geology, the history of the steam train, the genealogy of royalty, bus time-tables, prehistoric monsters, or the characters in a television serial, to the exclusion of all else" (bold mine).

Gillberg also talks the "one or two" thing, and even stresses that usually the interest in one thing does not generate an interest in related fields (style being interested in the life of Marie Antoniette but not in the History of France).

The ICD and specially the DSM seems to have a broader definition of "narrow interest". Comparing Gillberg, ICD and DSM.

Gillberg:

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All-absorbing narrow interest (at least one of the following)
(a) exclusion of other activities
(b) repetitive adherence
(c) more rote than meaning


ICD:

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An encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that are abnormal in content or focus; or one or more interests that are abnormal in their intensity and circumscribed nature though not in their content or focus


DSM:

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encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus.


The ICD and DSM seems more broad than Gillberg, and the DSM seems slightly more broad than the ICD ("abnormal intensity" seems enough for the DSM, while the ICD requires abnormality in "content or focus" or "circumscribed nature").



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09 Apr 2012, 4:40 pm

I'm pretty sure that vast majority of people with AS have wider or more interests than described by Lorna Wing and Gilberg. In my opinion the interests aren't so much as restricted as focused, they go deeper into narrower area.


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09 Apr 2012, 5:31 pm

Ganondox wrote:
In my opinion the interests aren't so much as restricted as focused, they go deeper into narrower area.


Could explain better?



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09 Apr 2012, 6:16 pm

Bear in mind that the criteria are generally written from a child's perspective. You might have an all encompassing obsession with space, dinosaurs, trains or some other specific thing when you are 7, but as you age the nature and type of interests will change. So your interests at 12 and 24 will look very different. An obsessive interest at 24 could be doctorate level study.

I guess the difference between nt and aspie behaviour might be the extent. I'm still obsessed by computing at age 33, my work is computing, therefore I might spend many more hours than nessassary working. To me it's not work, 15 years into my career and it doesn't feel like a job yet. I don't think it ever will.

Other possible differences are that my social contacts generally revolves around my interests. All my friends - ever - have had some involvement to my interests. If the interest wanes the friendship evaporates.

I do pick up new interests, but it's generally always in phases, some are one-offs, others are cyclical. There is no balance or moderation.

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10 Apr 2012, 2:47 am

Jtuk wrote:
Bear in mind that the criteria are generally written from a child's perspective. You might have an all encompassing obsession with space, dinosaurs, trains or some other specific thing when you are 7, but as you age the nature and type of interests will change. So your interests at 12 and 24 will look very different. An obsessive interest at 24 could be doctorate level study.

I guess the difference between nt and aspie behaviour might be the extent. I'm still obsessed by computing at age 33, my work is computing, therefore I might spend many more hours than nessassary working. To me it's not work, 15 years into my career and it doesn't feel like a job yet. I don't think it ever will.

Other possible differences are that my social contacts generally revolves around my interests. All my friends - ever - have had some involvement to my interests. If the interest wanes the friendship evaporates.

I do pick up new interests, but it's generally always in phases, some are one-offs, others are cyclical. There is no balance or moderation.

Jason

This pretty much mirrors my experience. My line of work coincides with my strongest "obsessive" interest, and to me it's a hobby that I happen to get paid for.



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10 Apr 2012, 3:57 am

Jtuk wrote:
Bear in mind that the criteria are generally written from a child's perspective.


I am not much sure of that. Today (when all books about Asperger's have a picture of a child in the cover) this sound strange, but I think the research that led to the inclusion of AS in the ICD and the DSM was essentially made in adults and teenagers - at time, there was even some researchers who were of the opinion that AS was simply a different name for "autism in adults".