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16 Apr 2011, 10:24 pm

What's your opinion if it was removed? What do you think would happen?



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16 Apr 2011, 10:44 pm

When it gets removed from the DSM-V, we'll all be autistic together.



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16 Apr 2011, 10:51 pm

I keep wondering what's going to happen to the ones who have the AS and PDD,NOS diagnoses? Would they automatically be moved to the autism diagnoses or have to be re tested? What if they didn't meet the new criteria? I have been told no one will need to be re tested and I have thought for years since doctors don't follow the DSM criteria anyway, they will mind as well make it all autism and get rid of the other labels. I thought "it's about time."



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16 Apr 2011, 11:05 pm

I think it will end all the AS/HFA confusion and AS elitism some people have.


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16 Apr 2011, 11:22 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I keep wondering what's going to happen to the ones who have the AS and PDD,NOS diagnoses? Would they automatically be moved to the autism diagnoses or have to be re tested? What if they didn't meet the new criteria? I have been told no one will need to be re tested and I have thought for years since doctors don't follow the DSM criteria anyway, they will mind as well make it all autism and get rid of the other labels. I thought "it's about time."


I think the intention is for everyone currently diagnosed under current criteria to fit (or at least the more comprehensive criteria for AS as the DSM-IV criteria is a bit less rigorous than it could be). I don't think the intention is for people to need to be rediagnosed (although I suspect in some situations this may happen - looking directly at social security trying to get people off disability here).



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16 Apr 2011, 11:42 pm

I would already describe myself as having either Asperger's syndrome or mild autism spectrum disorder - it is the same thing to my mind, at least in my case (I certainly don't think that all AS is mild ASD, just that I am).

If AS and autism and PDD-NOS are dropped from DSM-V, then I guess I would just say "mild autism spectrum disorder".

I don't really care. The exact label doesn't matter that much - either way, it tells me I am on the spectrum.



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17 Apr 2011, 12:02 am

Dr. Tony Atwood worries that if the AS diagnosis is changed to mild autism that people who have it won't receive any aid that they might need because insurance companies, the state, or whoever won't acknowledge any handicaps we might have because our autism is not severe enough.



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17 Apr 2011, 12:08 am

"If"?

This is precisely what's going to happen in the next version of the DSM.

An Autism "scale" will be adopted, and since Aspergers is an Autism-spectrum disorder,
it's not as if those previously diagnosed with it will be without a diagnosis, if needed for school and work accommodations, etc.


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17 Apr 2011, 12:17 am

TheSnarkKnight wrote:
Dr. Tony Atwood worries that if the AS diagnosis is changed to mild autism that people who have it won't receive any aid that they might need because insurance companies, the state, or whoever won't acknowledge any handicaps we might have because our autism is not severe enough.


Do you have a link to this information?



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17 Apr 2011, 12:23 am

Verdandi wrote:
TheSnarkKnight wrote:
Dr. Tony Atwood worries that if the AS diagnosis is changed to mild autism that people who have it won't receive any aid that they might need because insurance companies, the state, or whoever won't acknowledge any handicaps we might have because our autism is not severe enough.


Do you have a link to this information?


The handicaps would be the same.
The label would be the only thing changed.

Not saying Dr. Atwood isn't completely realistic in thinking insurance companies might try to screw people over.


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17 Apr 2011, 12:49 am

Bethie wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
TheSnarkKnight wrote:
Dr. Tony Atwood worries that if the AS diagnosis is changed to mild autism that people who have it won't receive any aid that they might need because insurance companies, the state, or whoever won't acknowledge any handicaps we might have because our autism is not severe enough.


Do you have a link to this information?


The handicaps would be the same.
The label would be the only thing changed.

Not saying Dr. Atwood isn't completely realistic in thinking insurance companies might try to screw people over.


This is true, because that is the natural state of the insurance company.



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17 Apr 2011, 1:09 am

I disagree with him--if our diagnosis is "autism spectrum disorder", then the insurance companies will have to treat people who used to be AS the same as people who always had the "autism" label.

Most people will, in adulthood, be in the "mild" category--whether or not they had a language delay as kids.


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17 Apr 2011, 2:39 am

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17 Apr 2011, 8:26 am

whatever the powers-that-be decide to do, i will still be me.