Ranting and raving: a common problem with autism?

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Seanybaby
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24 Aug 2006, 4:46 pm

I have this problem with posting messages on the internet. Whenever someone in particular says something on a forum that I don't like, it gets me very mad and I just have to post so much that it only makes me a firestarter. Anybody else with AS or Autism have this problem? (I'm trying to post this with as little words as possible.)


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24 Aug 2006, 4:50 pm

I don't feel the need to answer, but when I do, I do tend to write too much and complain a lot.
But this is the only forum I visit.



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24 Aug 2006, 4:53 pm

I tend to be very calm and collected in my writing even when upset.

But if someone is being aggrivating speaking to me verbally when Im under too much stress already I do tend to snap and do the whole "nearly foaming at the mouth screaming crazy lady emitting pure gibberish" thing.



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24 Aug 2006, 5:35 pm

Asked, "What do you do when you disagree with a supervisor?" one person said, "Well first I do a self-examination and ask why I disagree." i.e. What is it about you that makes you get very mad whenever someone in particular says something on a forum that you don't like?

Personally, I don't understand why people get all bent outta' shape over words on their computer screen, but I understand that they do.


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24 Aug 2006, 6:06 pm

I can't tell if I rant and rave but I can get stuck on an idea, good or bad, and go on about it too long for most people. Then they usually tell me they don't want to hear any more about it. That could be ranting I guess.



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24 Aug 2006, 6:09 pm

Just stop every now and then and ask "Am I boring you?" to be polite they'll usually say "no" and you can keep ranting and boring them to tears.. hehe repay some of the torture they make you endure :P



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24 Aug 2006, 6:39 pm

Seanybaby wrote:
I have this problem with posting messages on the internet. Whenever someone in particular says something on a forum that I don't like, it gets me very mad and I just have to post so much that it only makes me a firestarter. Anybody else with AS or Autism have this problem? (I'm trying to post this with as little words as possible.)


I get this sometimes. One thing that helps me is to post it on my blog instead of as a "reply" to the post. That way, I don't incite a flamewar, but I can still get it out of my system.

Then I try to examine what made me so upset and see if I can turn any of it into constructive response. If I find myself ranting again, I don't post.

Except, when someone is being totally bigoted or hurtful toward someone - then I don't have any problem flaming away.



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24 Aug 2006, 9:21 pm

Seanybaby wrote:
I have this problem with posting messages on the internet. Whenever someone in particular says something on a forum that I don't like, it gets me very mad and I just have to post so much that it only makes me a firestarter. Anybody else with AS or Autism have this problem? (I'm trying to post this with as little words as possible.)
sometimes. usually what gets me is situations where people are either being taken for a ride by someone else, i feel like if someone doesn't know they are being had i need to say something. or when someone starts talking about "religion" thats when i step right in and shove all the crap they just said right back into there dumb mouths



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24 Aug 2006, 10:48 pm

On #wrongplanet I sometimes go into lengthy explanation when someone expresses an apparently uninformed idea. Some view this as argumentative although I am largely calm about it and don't realize people think I'm arguing with them until people say, "Just drop it," and claim I'm purposely being obnoxious.

Offline I stilll sometimes have the tendency to spew random facts (like about medieval European history or computers) when socializing.



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25 Aug 2006, 1:54 am

Although an admin myself, I have started several flamewars against (NT-)idiots on other forums and get banned from most of them. I simply hate liers and stupid people and often can't resist taking out my anger on them.



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25 Aug 2006, 1:55 am

To be honest, I enjoy ranting and raving. As long as you don't let the argument get personal, it's ok.



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25 Aug 2006, 3:21 am

I fear I sound as if I'm ranting and raving, and it tends to make other people mad, when they feel like I'm jumping down their throats over nothing.

The truth is, the people I reply to wrote something that got me thinking, and I procede to spend about one or two dozen paragraphs of "thinking out loud" as I try on every possible association with the topic to see where I go to with it. I can't stop until I feel like I've formed a solid idea out of it all. I'll try to trim everything down to a sane size, which usually consists of cutting several paragraphs and a few sentences out until I'm left with about 8 or so paragraphs, which still look, at best, like "lectures" and "rants" to anyone unfortunate enough to read them. At worst, it looks like I'm trying to show off, cut everyone else down into little pieces, or rave uncontrollably in fits of anger or cruelty, and there's never anything I can do to change anyone's mind about that - my inevitably lengthy replies just make matters worse. (And it doesn't help to admit that I'm enjoying myself - I say "look, I'm not trying to insult you; really, I'm enjoying myself here", and people seem to read "Ha! I'm enjoying myself... and it's at YOUR expense!") Even though I understand what's going on, on an intellectual level, I just can't change it, though... I'm having too much fun writing, and so the "ranting and raving" are here to stay... sorry, world.




But, yes, I'd say that "long-post-syndrome" is one of the first things that helped me make the connection between my weirdness and Asperger's Syndrome. I know that when I let myself slip offline, I actually speak that way in person, except I do it in a nervous-sounding monotone with no eye contact. (Nobody mistakes me for being angry or nasty then... they instantly realise the truth, and the truth is that I'm really only boring, and terrible with social situations :D )



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25 Aug 2006, 4:24 am

I tend to rant and rave but on other forums which I've been banned from after doing so.



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25 Aug 2006, 4:32 am

When communicating through a written medium, I can be quite calm and rational. I've been made moderators and administrators of websites and in-game communities due to my calmness and rationality - although, I have to say there have been a few spectacular exceptions. Overall, written communication hasn't caused many problems for me.

However, in face-to-face situations - it is a different story. I've started numerous fights with people because when angry, I will tell them exactly how I feel, using vulgar terms to emphasize my points. I've lost a fair number of friendships through this behaviour. I can also become passionate on topics and I sound like a preacher expounding views from a pulpit. I can come across as overly forceful and arrogant, and unfortunately I'm not aware of this unless others tell me.

Sometimes I unintentionally sound like I'm ranting and am unaware until later, and I've had that happen many times in face-to-face situations. One example was at a restaurant, where my best friend and I were waiting for our dessert. Our order had been held up for a while, and I was not pleased. I told my best friend about my displeasure, intending it as a quiet, semi-humourous complaint meant for her ears only. Then:

Waitress: [hurrying with the desserts] Sorry about the wait. Really sorry.
Me: 8O
Me: How did she know?
Best Friend: The whole restaurant knows, you were ranting loudly for a while.
Me: Huh?
Best Friend: Didn't you know?
Me: *embarassed pause*....let's get out of here, please.

I guess for me, my emotions can become very strong and can arise suddenly. Plus, if the event is happening in front of me, the intimacy makes it harder for me to control my emotions.


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25 Aug 2006, 6:58 am

Long-post syndrome - very good way of putting it. I've found that I now usually can't be bothered to rant too much, because there are so many other posts to get through, and I have other things to do on the computer besides come on here. And I have other things to do with my day (believe it or not) besides going on the computer :P Such as practising. But yes, when I do let myself go I have to try very hard to control myself, especially whehn it comes to religious or moral issues. I think it may also be connected to being unable to let little details go, and trying very hard to make the exact point. As someone said above, it usually takes a lot of paragraphs to express the thought satisfactorily (is that even a word? :? ) but then I find I can't cut out the unnecessary waffle because I don't know what's unnecessary and what's not :P

Heh, my LiveJournal posts are the longest I've ever seen :roll: And that's due to having to get every detail right.


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25 Aug 2006, 12:15 pm

If it's the other way around, I can relate to it more often.


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