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17 May 2011, 2:42 pm

Are low functioning autistics kept from their highest potential?



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17 May 2011, 2:55 pm

High function autistics are kept from their highest potential. I would have to think the same holds true for the lower ends of functioning as well.


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17 May 2011, 3:36 pm

School systems (and other systems, I suppose) have to focus their limited resources where they can have the best outcomes for the most. These systems, however, seem mostly to be run by people who treat their prejudices and preconceptions as inviolable rules of the universe. Mostly NT-ish people, too... Now, when the Aspies take over the world, things will be different! :wink:



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17 May 2011, 4:59 pm

In my opinion most people, NT and autistic alike, are kept from their highest potential.


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17 May 2011, 5:09 pm

If people weren't kept from their highest potential then there wouldn't be a society.



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17 May 2011, 5:11 pm

Mindslave wrote:
If people weren't kept from their highest potential then there wouldn't be a society.


There would be, it just wouldn't be like ours.


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18 May 2011, 9:14 am

mb1984 wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
If people weren't kept from their highest potential then there wouldn't be a society.


There would be, it just wouldn't be like ours.


Yeah, that's true. I suppose I mean that if people weren't kept from their highest potential, then you couldn't have traditional jobs. You also wouldn't have a government, or money for that matter, and there wouldn't be any form of trade or barter or any other variation of debt or servitude or drop everything you are doing and come here right now or you will go to jail. But who would want to live in a society like that? :D



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18 May 2011, 9:51 am

Can't we let the humans reach their highest potential, reform the economic system, and use robots for every job that doesn't absolutely require humans? We could then fulfill our consciously created needs. I think the only things stopping this are habit, and the desire to feel superior.


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18 May 2011, 10:13 am

Mindslave wrote:
If people weren't kept from their highest potential then there wouldn't be a society.


This makes no sense to me. If everyone achieved their highest potential would society suddenly evaporate?


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18 May 2011, 10:18 am

Yes, autistics are probably held back from their highest potential. I could be wrong. Every individual is different, so I do not think this question can be answered adequately.



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18 May 2011, 4:56 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
Can't we let the humans reach their highest potential, reform the economic system, and use robots for every job that doesn't absolutely require humans? We could then fulfill our consciously created needs. I think the only things stopping this are habit, and the desire to feel superior.

You left out "...and an unstoppable tendency to s**t where we eat." If I may be permitted the double crime of crude metaphor. :wink: Seriously, we've got three separate major factions of delusional nutcases *ahem* sorry, I mean venerable, harmless and entirely admirable religions each spamming babies to try and win a domination victory, we're doing a splendid job of hosting our own Mass Extinction Event for any creature which we haven't kept around to eat, we've seriously devalued the leaf and never mind the unimportant stuff like oil, we're losing water and cropland. Basically, we're screwed, and h. sapiens best hope for a future where people can realise their potential is to play Global Thermonuclear War and hope whoever crawls out of the dust makes a better job of it next time round.
Or wait and see. On ne sait jamais, as that little dude said.


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18 May 2011, 5:34 pm

Ambivalence wrote:
jrjones9933 wrote:
Can't we let the humans reach their highest potential, reform the economic system, and use robots for every job that doesn't absolutely require humans? We could then fulfill our consciously created needs. I think the only things stopping this are habit, and the desire to feel superior.

You left out "...and an unstoppable tendency to sh** where we eat." If I may be permitted the double crime of crude metaphor. :wink: Seriously, we've got three separate major factions of delusional nutcases *ahem* sorry, I mean venerable, harmless and entirely admirable religions each spamming babies to try and win a domination victory, we're doing a splendid job of hosting our own Mass Extinction Event for any creature which we haven't kept around to eat, we've seriously devalued the leaf and never mind the unimportant stuff like oil, we're losing water and cropland. Basically, we're screwed, and h. sapiens best hope for a future where people can realise their potential is to play Global Thermonuclear War and hope whoever crawls out of the dust makes a better job of it next time round.
Or wait and see. On ne sait jamais, as that little dude said.


QTF, but people get really angry if I bring it up the fact that having children is a selfish decision and overpopulation is ruining the ecosphere, so I don't. It's too emotionally charged to debate.


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