I may have found the perfect job for Aspies
Over the past few days I've gotten into the stock market, I've been researching all the terms and teaching myself technical analysis, I've learnt about P/E ratios, bull/bear markets, trends, and all manner of other things.
Now, the more I think about this and look into it, the more something in investment, such as a hedge fund manager, seems to be a very good job for Aspies. Essentially, it's collecting and analysing information, and making logical decisions based on that. You look at past trends in AAPL stock, for example, and you look at the current state of it then try to predict what will happen next. If you can master that, you can become very rich - the 25 best hedge fund managers made an average of $1 billion last year alone. Many will point out that they are exception, and while that may very well be true, if the exception make $1 billion then it isn't unreasonable to except someone who does a decent job might make about $10 million, which is a very good salary isn't it?
I'd also like to bring attention to this article, or this much shorter one, about an Aspie hedge fund manager who made $100 million in a single year by predicting the subprime mortgage crash and buying credit default swaps on subprime mortgage bonds - that is, he bet against subprime mortgages, and made almost a billion dollars profit out of it (over $700 million went to the investors of his fund).
I'm trying to get into the stock market at the moment, and am managing a virtual portfolio already for practice. If I can master this, it could very well be the way I get rich, and make many many millions.
What do you think? If ever there was a perfect job for Aspies, this is it IMO - not forgetting the fact you can do it from your house too, right from your computer in fact. Just keep a stock ticker running and your broker site up!
On The Daily Show last month, there was an interview with an author who wrote a book about someone with AS who made a lot of money in the stock market because he didn't invest in the same way that other people were investing:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-m ... hael-lewis
I don't think there's likely to be one perfect job for all Aspies any more than there is one perfect fit for anybody. I was a Radio disc jockey for thirty years and other than having to make public appearances from time to time, I loved virtually every minute of it. When I tell people who understand AS what I used to do, the common reaction is "Wow - that seems like way too social a job for an Aspie" - what they don't realize is, it allowed me to spend almost my entire workday in a closed studio alone, stimming, playing music and talking to myself into a microphone. And I got paid for that. For me that was as perfect a fit as being the proverbial 'pig in sh*t'.
On the other hand, anything to do with stocks sounds too much like math to me and I suck at math. I think it would bore me to death. Not to mention the fact that left to my own devices at home, I'm so easily distracted by my other interests, I can easily waste an entire day and get absolutely no work done whatsoever. So, like anything else, I guess it would just depend on the individual, but if it were a fit for any given Aspie, it would probably be a great one. Make a million for me while yer at it! ![]()
For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
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For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
As an aspiring hedge fund manager, I resent that remark!
For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
As an aspiring hedge fund manager, I resent that remark!
Don't worry about it. As an Aspie, we're unpopular anyway. You may as well be rich and unpopular. No problem if morally you're not bothered about being divorced from any direct relationship to the productive process, making your money through parasitism and fraud. Could be worse. At least you don't want to work in advertising....
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Circular logic is correct because it is.
For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
As an aspiring hedge fund manager, I resent that remark!
Don't worry about it. As an Aspie, we're unpopular anyway. You may as well be rich and unpopular. No problem if morally you're not bothered about being divorced from any direct relationship to the productive process, making your money through parasitism and fraud. Could be worse. At least you don't want to work in advertising....
I'll have you know we play a very important role in making rich people richer and becoming rich ourselves in the process!
Nah, I know this kind of thing is not thought of nicely by most people, but I couldn't care less. I want to be rich, simple as that. Like you say, we're not liked anyway, better to be unpopular and rich than just unpopular!
EDIT: BTW, hedge fund managers don't leach off of anyone, wealthy clients put their money in a hedge fund so it can be invested.
For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
For what? Being the biggest parasites on the planet? I look forward to the day when the masses finally become aware of how the bankers and hedge fund managers leach off us and they are all put against the wall and shot.
That's harsh. Geez. I'm usually at odds of principle with the rich and the love of money in general. But I don't aspire the genocide of the upper (misnomer) class either.
I was surprised to see this thread posted. I was actually thinking the other day that I might be pretty good at a financial career. I've never made a lot of money as I've been one of those that has found himself doing menial work since high school. But I have a real knack for holding onto my money and ways to accomplish keeping it. I don't doubt for a second a money manager could be wonderful for some Aspies. But I don't have a love for money. My abilities are more a product of necessity for survival.
Good luck and best wishes toward your endeavor! I hope to rewind time and make it into college this summer or fall. I was hoping to work toward pharmacist but still struggling with choices.
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i dont lke countng money. Usually when i try and count a bunch of coins, f I try again i get a different number every time. I do lke spending money though... luckily i keep my shopping sprees confined to the supermarket so I dont do too much damage.
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Now, the more I think about this and look into it, the more something in investment, such as a hedge fund manager, seems to be a very good job for Aspies. Essentially, it's collecting and analysing information, and making logical decisions based on that. You look at past trends in AAPL stock, for example, and you look at the current state of it then try to predict what will happen next. If you can master that, you can become very rich - the 25 best hedge fund managers made an average of $1 billion last year alone. Many will point out that they are exception, and while that may very well be true, if the exception make $1 billion then it isn't unreasonable to except someone who does a decent job might make about $10 million, which is a very good salary isn't it?
I'd also like to bring attention to this article, or this much shorter one, about an Aspie hedge fund manager who made $100 million in a single year by predicting the subprime mortgage crash and buying credit default swaps on subprime mortgage bonds - that is, he bet against subprime mortgages, and made almost a billion dollars profit out of it (over $700 million went to the investors of his fund).
I'm trying to get into the stock market at the moment, and am managing a virtual portfolio already for practice. If I can master this, it could very well be the way I get rich, and make many many millions.
What do you think? If ever there was a perfect job for Aspies, this is it IMO - not forgetting the fact you can do it from your house too, right from your computer in fact. Just keep a stock ticker running and your broker site up!
This is great Asp-Z! I hope you do it too! I read the article when you posted it in your reply to another post and found it fascinating! I have thought about getting into something like this myself.
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Asp-Z, when you get employees down the road, if you can delegate-not dump, you'll be ahead of the curve. You're also likely to face the Ted Williams problem: how do you manage/coach people less talented (or less serious and intense) than yourself? Well, it's better to do 15 activities satisfactorily good, rather than two activities perfectly. And if you can figure out a better answer, please let me know.
I lived in Las Vegas for two years and played poker on a semi-serious basis and what I can tell you is that it was far streakier than our societal and esp. school focus on mean, medium, and mode, and on bell curves, and 'normal' distributions, would ever lead us to expect. There are streaks in which things go in your favor (along with sound, relaxed, observant play) and you think you are a well-, well-above-average poker player! And then streaks, where just due to bad luck, things go badly and one somewhat loses his or her rhythm (as one pro wrote, when you're in a slump, a proper fold won't pull you out of it, but it will help you from sliding deeper into it, and that's just as important).
And I found myself wondering how far this went. Might an obstetrician have that awful streak in which he loses three babies in a row. And just due to bad luck? although the third one is the one that will haunt him. And he will find himself questioning everything, as well as he should, including whether he ever wants to continue in medicine another day in his life. And just three different unlucky events hit him right in a row. Now, he may have lost his rhythm at the end, including being overly cautious and doubting himself.
Okay, so when you get a bad streak, become somewhat more conservative, somewhat more deliberative, but not uber cautious, nothing like that. And find a way to win the hand, play the hand, one card and one betting round at a time. It will be there. Let it come to you. It will be other than predicted in advance. Give yourself permission to win messy.
One lesson from Bill Gates. He gave himself permission to win messy. And also, arguably he did not push it too far.
And as you start making a goodly amount of money, please donate some to charities and causes you believe in. Please, if it feels right to you, I do make that request.
(I broke even in poker. But then again, the casino rake + customary tip is significantly higher than financial transaction fees. If I added a few key skills to my repertoire, if I focused on enjoying my game and letting winning be a by product, or if someone else more talented than I tried Vegas poker, well, who knows. But there are definitely upswings and downswings.)
here awhile back i made a little money on ativision. after cod4 i bought into atvi at 10 the release of mw2 bumped it another 2 bucks a share. recently sold it after the forced regime change at infinity ward. didnt make alot of money but enough to justify playing with the market more
I lived in Las Vegas for two years and played poker on a semi-serious basis and what I can tell you is that it was far streakier than our societal and esp. school focus on mean, medium, and mode, and on bell curves, and 'normal' distributions, would ever lead us to expect. There are streaks in which things go in your favor (along with sound, relaxed, observant play) and you think you are a well-, well-above-average poker player! And then streaks, where just due to bad luck, things go badly and one somewhat loses his or her rhythm (as one pro wrote, when you're in a slump, a proper fold won't pull you out of it, but it will help you from sliding deeper into it, and that's just as important).
And I found myself wondering how far this went. Might an obstetrician have that awful streak in which he loses three babies in a row. And just due to bad luck? although the third one is the one that will haunt him. And he will find himself questioning everything, as well as he should, including whether he ever wants to continue in medicine another day in his life. And just three different unlucky events hit him right in a row. Now, he may have lost his rhythm at the end, including being overly cautious and doubting himself.
Okay, so when you get a bad streak, become somewhat more conservative, somewhat more deliberative, but not uber cautious, nothing like that. And find a way to win the hand, play the hand, one card and one betting round at a time. It will be there. Let it come to you. It will be other than predicted in advance. Give yourself permission to win messy.
One lesson from Bill Gates. He gave himself permission to win messy. And also, arguably he did not push it too far.
And as you start making a goodly amount of money, please donate some to charities and causes you believe in. Please, if it feels right to you, I do make that request.
(I broke even in poker. But then again, the casino rake + customary tip is significantly higher than financial transaction fees. If I added a few key skills to my repertoire, if I focused on enjoying my game and letting winning be a by product, or if someone else more talented than I tried Vegas poker, well, who knows. But there are definitely upswings and downswings.)
Thanks for this post! And don't worry, I plan to donate loads to the National Autistic Society and the Autism Self-Advocacy Network
Thanks, too, to everyone who's offered me support in this thread!
