I feel NTs are cleverer than me

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People say that Aspies have average to high IQ, but I feel that my IQ is slightly lower than NTs, so lower than average. The reason why I feel this way is because NTs always seem to know how to suggest things to eachother and they always seem right, whereas I feel I don't know anything and so can't really suggest anything, and so just walk along going, ''uh-huh'', while they are going on about something. For example, today I was with a friend, and she was saying about getting a new front door, and she couldn't decide what sort she wanted and what sort was best. We went into a type of shop what sold things like doors and stuff like that, (see, I don't even know the names of shops!) and I couldn't even help my friend choose the right door because I just had no idea of anything. If somebody else was with her, they'd probably be like, ''you ought to get X because it's more better in the winter because it has Y'', and my friend would be like, ''yes, and it has Z'', and so on. It seems that NTs know a bit about everything, and can discuss, whereas I say something what I think is helpful and people say, ''well, actually, no, because.....'' And I feel like I don't know anything.

Also, almost every NT I know (especially women) seem to remember all the prices in shops. Once I was with somebody in Tesco and she looked at biscuits and said, ''these biscuits are £X! You can get two of those in Sainsburys for £Y!'' And I'm like, ''how do you remember all these bargains and prices?''

Either I walk around with my eyes closed, or I'm just not very bright at anything. Or are NTs politically clever, financially clever, fashionably clever, et cetera, whilst Aspies are scientifically clever or something like that? (Not that I'm scientifically or mathmematically clever either).

I do not think it is about being clever. It is just that NT's agree with each other on a social level. It gives them a strength that non NT's have to overcome creatively.

^ I think I agree with you, and I cannot overcome it in these situations.

It is quite easy to overcome the social order of NT's. You just stand proud and show that you like to be different. NT's are everywhere and boringly the same but we are interesting to them.

It's easier said than done for most of us, I'd have thought. Certainly in my case.

If you just do one thing that each day that argues your case then you will soon discover a habit to stick up for non NT's alike. What you get in return is respect, whoever you are.

And in mine. My sister has never understood why I was like that.

Heh, well, if you're going to compare yourself to NTs in the area of socializing, of course they're cleverer. That's what they're good at. NTs are social specialists. If you compared yourself in your area of specialty, then they'd be less clever. Believe it or not, it's actually not a horrible thing to be bad at doing or learning something. It's just a fact. If they look down on you for it, then that's a flaw on their part and none of your fault.

People with AS have IQ 70+, usually higher because I think doctors tend to diagnose autism if they think the person has an IQ significantly below average (maybe under 85).

IQ is nothing to do with what you are talking about. IQ is the skills of the brain, recognising patterns, solving maths problems, choosing the correct word, etc.

NTs often have advantages over aspies in certain areas, and aspies often have them in others, though neither "NT" nor "aspie" are absolute terms (not all NTs are the same).

The prices- I don't think they remember exactly, they just have a rough idea. I know chocolate bars are 40p-60p, more for a premium one, and if I saw someone selling a Dairy Milk for 80p I'd laugh at them.

I do not think it is a question of understanding autism. It is that people need to learn to respect people with autism in order to get respect back.

All you have to do is research more. I know f**k all about doors but if you were to choose between an F-22 Raptor and an FA-23 then I'd be able to help you out.
I forget lots of things too. I write down everything I need to get done in a day just so I remember to do it. I also have ADHD so I don't let it bother me. I leave switches on, forget if I turned off the iron or stove, forget when my favourite shows are on, forget about appointments and forget about what I was trying so hard to remember.
That doesn't make a person stupid. All the NT's around me don't know half of what I know and I don't know half of or care about what they know.
You just need to improve your memory skills or be more attentive to the world around you. That, or get on medication.
I have impulsive spending habits and I'm not the best at estimating how much it will all cost, but I'm getting better because I'm aware of it and have gone to lengths to properly try to count it all up. I even have an application on my phone that works out the extra tax I need to pay (thank you very much Liberal government). Although, I often forget to use it.

I've noticed NTs can beat me to the punch with some of these social things, but I still refuse to see them as cleverer than I am.

Also I think a lot of the "social" stuff NTs come out with is very shallow and lacking in substance. They'll frequently just say something vaguely complimentary off the top of their head, and if you quizzed them about it they'd eventually have to admit that they just made it up and didn't have any really solid advice.

Basically, if it's a thing I've ever been interested in, I might be able to advise about it. If not then I probably can't. But I don't really see it as terribly important. Anybody can get specialist advice from the Web these days. There's no need to bother friends who don't know anything about the subject. They might get to feel a little bit nurtured, but the advice will probably mislead them.

According to this, I don't have a very high IQ. I thought I was bad at recognising patterns. The other day I was at a resteraunt, and there was something on the plate, and I said, ''oh look, the plate is dirty'', and my dad said, ''no, it's just a little pattern of the plate.'' And he was right - it was just a couple of grey flowers painted onto the plates. I cannot solve math problems (I know NTs who can), and I cannot ever think of the correct words.

Some NTs make me feel very vaige. I've got a friend who makes me feel vaige. She isn't the cleverest of people herself, but she still makes me feel like I'm really stupid and slow. Like when she's showing me something, she goes, ''look at that, over there, see, over there, look, there!'' and I always have to say, ''yes, I see it. It's very nice.'' She doesn't let me even answer because she's too busy thinking I'm not looking at it. But it might just be the type of person she is. Like you said, all NTs are different from eachother, as much as Aspies are different from eachother.

I never have thought of an NT being more clever than me. They might be better socially but not better mentally. We are the same mentally but I do come with weirder more different ways of doing things. I have amazed people with my quick and easy work arounds but I have also amazed them in negative ways as well like my unwillingness to drive or my inability to operate a machine because of the noises or vibrations it makes.

I don't feel that way and neither do I feel that I'm more clever than NTs.