Hate Speech
After Norways shootings I have been thinking a lot
I was also thinking about hate speech in general, you know, your everyday WP anti NT stuff, the dissing of the sexes on WP Love and Dating, anti Autism Speaks vitriol, members arguing and fighting and getting their knickers in a twist etc etc
How much of an indicator of sociopathy is hate speech? Or hate thought??
I realize every hate speaker/thinker will not have guns and bombs and decide to act on their hate
But in general how meaningful to you, is hate speech seen in another person?
Obviously, someone full of understanding, peace and love would not express hate of others.
Blessed be the peacemakers
some people take the anti-hate speech sh!t too far and can't wait to call someone a racist or a biggot to make themselves feel superior Case in point I once told a dungeons and dragons group that I relate different langauges to animal noises and other noises made by nature such as German and the Nordic languages sound like a dog growling, Arabic or Yiddish sounds like phlem hacking, and English sound like the baying of sheep. They called me a racist for thinking like that. I am a visual thinker I hear or see something I relate an image or a similar sound with whatever I am thinking of I can't help it is has always been apart of my thought process. These same enlightened people made little jokes about my having ADHD or my family being from West Virgina therefore my forgetfulness came from inbreeding. ![]()
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That isn't racist if you think that way about languages in general
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Yeah recently I too incorrectly got called a racist
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I guess certain discriminations, are less of an issue than others. And these change up and down in time....And by nationality....Like its okay to eat this animal in this country but reprehensible to eat that animal in that country
I could be seen as hate speaking by talking about certain countries codes of conduct
Like its okay now to trash Christians for these shootings, or Muslims after 9/11
I guess hate speech is populist, and acceptability changes with society
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There are many of them. I remember an anti-jocks thread. The anti therapist threads, anti-medication threads, hell I even have hate spoken about some things, and made disrespectful and distasteful comments.
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I was also thinking about hate speech in general, you know, your everyday WP anti NT stuff, the dissing of the sexes on WP Love and Dating, anti Autism Speaks vitriol, members arguing and fighting and getting their knickers in a twist etc etc
How much of an indicator of sociopathy is hate speech? Or hate thought??
I realize every hate speaker/thinker will not have guns and bombs and decide to act on their hate
But in general how meaningful to you, is hate speech seen in another person?
Obviously, someone full of understanding, peace and love would not express hate of others.
Blessed be the peacemakers
Hate speech has very little definition in the US except for threatening someone with violence or inciting others to commit violence. Demonizing another group is legal but calling for people to rise up and exterminate another group is not. Publicly talking about how you hate someone or some group and why is legal and you are not obligated to make sense to anyone, but you can't announce plans to commit a crime against them and you cannot encourage others to either.
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I was also thinking about hate speech in general, you know, your everyday WP anti NT stuff, the dissing of the sexes on WP Love and Dating, anti Autism Speaks vitriol, members arguing and fighting and getting their knickers in a twist etc etc
How much of an indicator of sociopathy is hate speech? Or hate thought??
I realize every hate speaker/thinker will not have guns and bombs and decide to act on their hate
But in general how meaningful to you, is hate speech seen in another person?
Obviously, someone full of understanding, peace and love would not express hate of others.
Blessed be the peacemakers
Hate speech has very little definition in the US except for threatening someone with violence or inciting others to commit violence. Demonizing another group is legal but calling for people to rise up and exterminate another group is not. Publicly talking about how you hate someone or some group and why is legal and you are not obligated to make sense to anyone, but you can't announce plans to commit a crime against them and you cannot encourage others to either.
This!
Just out of curiosity - if I were to quote Swedish Police statistics which state that 98% of the rapes in Sweden in the last 10 years where committed by non-european emigrants that specifically targeted indigenous women, would you consider my statement "hate speech"? Or racist? Would you find it odd if considered as such by others?
Our strength lies in using humor and intelligence to deal with complex issues that face us directly. Our weakness would be to express our negative thoughts in a hateful way.
We imagine the society we live in to have reached stablity and it's going to be this way forever. It might stay like this, I can't see into that future. There is a neo-nazi'ish consciousness trying to form in sections of society in Europe. It relies on having hate as it central axis in the individual's and group psyche. Around this axis it aims to structure the experience and thoughts of individuals and groups. It is directed against those who do not genetically or culturally conform to notions of group sameness.
The problem is, it is not a completely irrational - immigration and rapid cultural change have caused difficulties for the groups it did not benefit. Difficulties is an understatement for some. It may be that this response seems more rational to people in this situation than the distorted explaination
of multiculturalism fed to them by those who benefit from it. This is the problem, it has real roots
in economic and social reality.
Nazi'sm grew first by including groups not-same, then when the same got power it set about erradicating them. If in the future this were to happen again, hatespeak on board like this could be cited as evidence of enough difference to target us . This kind of society would use theories of difference and accademic models of research to create the wet-dream eurgenics practices of some contemporary nazis. Why? It's ideology swept through universities and determined the thinking of a generation who put their objectivity and criticism aside to survive . Ie we will be on our own if it happens again.
At a real level, if we hatespeak today it may be some nutter will attack a special school , or firebomb a house and justify this because of what has been posted on sites like this. It might not be a Nazi, it might just be a nuttter.
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I can understand the need to sound off. Everyone needs to do that, right? I mean, you're frustrated with the school cook and suddenly all school cooks are evil and must be destroyed.
But there is a point where it goes too far. Where healthy expression of anger over something you can't change turns into fanaticism.
I'm a massive proponant of expressing anger, but at the same time, I was brought up to believe that there are 2 sides to every story and everyone has rights.
So I'm not going to condemn someone for sounding off, possibly in the only place they can - but I would say be cautious and if it goes to far, how would you feel if someone treated you in that way?
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Well I know there are many in real life that seem to have the urge to be with the Anti-Autism or Anti-Aspergers type people, seeing that it both applies to internet and real life issues,
Unfortunately it seems like members on some boards who seem more caring and supportive of NTs and tend to report members or the staff see someone that is not speaking right but being on topic can still anger a staff member, even disable the privilages of some members, like access to forums, the PM system and such, or they get perma banned quickly and threatend for termination of your internet access, that right there can be a sign the staff are currently in the seat of the Anti-Autism and Anti-Aspergers group,
So far some boards including 1 in specific based on the show Avatar: The Last Airbender naed of the site AvatarSpirit.net I was viciously banned by the owner threatened of both loosing my Email account and my internet access because of my discussion about Autism, that surely reached a point that there was HATE for the disorder on that board and at many of the NTs that were on it, they and 5 Staff members have real dislikes of Autism, and that is where the first signs of hate came in on the internet, and shortly after that, I got listed on Encyclopaedia Dramatica.
Yes, but the vast majority of the time it's just hyperbolic nonsense and can safely be ignored. More worrying is when the authorities over-react to comments that are clearly joking in nature - and even the authorities themselves admit this - and use these comments to persecute someone. Like Paul Chambers.
I was also thinking about hate speech in general, you know, your everyday WP anti NT stuff, the dissing of the sexes on WP Love and Dating, anti Autism Speaks vitriol, members arguing and fighting and getting their knickers in a twist etc etc
If someone hates me I will hate them even more. if someone calls me a name I will call them a worst one, and if someone calls me a ret*d I will make them look like fool the minute they say something that is wrong. Turn the other cheek and they will slap your other cheek even harder. I would not have survived high school or functioned as well on a job without adhereing to this philosphy. People learned it is not worth the aggravation to mess with me giving me the peace I wanted.
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There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die -Hunter S. Thompson
I was also thinking about hate speech in general, you know, your everyday WP anti NT stuff, the dissing of the sexes on WP Love and Dating, anti Autism Speaks vitriol, members arguing and fighting and getting their knickers in a twist etc etc
If someone hates me I will hate them even more. if someone calls me a name I will call them a worst one, and if someone calls me a ret*d I will make them look like fool the minute they say something that is wrong. Turn the other cheek and they will slap your other cheek even harder. I would not have survived high school or functioned as well on a job without adhereing to this philosphy. People learned it is not worth the aggravation to mess with me giving me the peace I wanted.
If they ever did come for our kind at some future time , I think more than a few of us like yourself would be more than Inglorious. They have no idea what they would be messing with on a global scale. It migh tbe the one event the threat that fuses our minds, like a pack of NT's as a group and then through that understanding the world makes complete and new sense.
But it's only minor potentiality. I don't know what the future is and hopefuly it would never come to this.
