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18 Apr 2011, 3:41 am

Hey, I'm a bit worried about a problem I've been experiencing lately so thought I'd ask for some advice. Basically I keep getting words muddled up when I talk and it takes me a long time to retrieve some words. At first it was funny and of course people laugh when I get words muddled up, but it's happening all the time and I'm getting worried now. My mum even said to me that she doesn't know what has happened to me because I used to be so intelligent. It's usually nouns that I will muddle up, for example saying 'please can you pass me that fork' while pointing to a knife. Really simple things like that. It's happening lots though. Any ideas why this is happening? I don't know whether to go to the doctor, but they always make me feel like I'm wasting their time. Thanks for your time :)



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18 Apr 2011, 4:07 am

Getting words muddled somewhere between brain and mouth is normal for me. It is a struggle to stay on track and deliver what I actually intended to say, rather than what often comes out, but it is not something that has worsened over the years.

I have however, noticed diminishing ability to recall or remember words since I ceased taking Citalopram (an SSRI) a few months back. Perhaps you have been taking or ceased taking some medication which may explain your difficulty with words?



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18 Apr 2011, 4:13 am

Funny you should say that because I stopped taking citalopram about 3 weeks ago. I didn't realise it could do that! Will it get better or am I stuck with this now? Lol



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18 Apr 2011, 4:41 am

I've noticed a general reduction in my intellectual abilities; things that I used to know how to do or were easy are I've now forgotten or are hard. I had no idea that Citalopram withdrawal could do this either, so I'm as much in the dark as you are. I would say that it has got worse during the second month of withdrawal. Overall an incredibly nasty drug in my opinion, that did very little for my depression yet saddled me with a whole load of other problems.



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18 Apr 2011, 6:26 am

kerryt84 wrote:
Hey, I'm a bit worried about a problem I've been experiencing lately so thought I'd ask for some advice. Basically I keep getting words muddled up when I talk and it takes me a long time to retrieve some words. At first it was funny and of course people laugh when I get words muddled up, but it's happening all the time and I'm getting worried now. My mum even said to me that she doesn't know what has happened to me because I used to be so intelligent. It's usually nouns that I will muddle up, for example saying 'please can you pass me that fork' while pointing to a knife. Really simple things like that. It's happening lots though. Any ideas why this is happening? I don't know whether to go to the doctor, but they always make me feel like I'm wasting their time. Thanks for your time :)

I do it (muddling up words) with less simple words, saying something I didn't mean, substituting intended words to inappropriate ones, and these are not Freudian slips (something form the subconscious). I notice it immediately after and correct as I can. Sometimes I just make a strange association and thus make my speech less understandable.

As for medication, I avoid them all. I try to manage without them as much as I can. With time & effort it helps, I believe on the long term it has its benefits.

Why it happens? Perhaps it is in connection with my overall slow/faulty memory recalling ability.



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18 Apr 2011, 7:10 am

I forget and muddle up a lot of words when I'm posting here.


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02 Aug 2011, 4:03 am

OJani wrote:
I do it (muddling up words) with less simple words, saying something I didn't mean, substituting intended words to inappropriate ones, and these are not Freudian slips (something form the subconscious). I notice it immediately after and correct as I can. Sometimes I just make a strange association and thus make my speech less understandable.

As for medication, I avoid them all. I try to manage without them as much as I can. With time & effort it helps, I believe on the long term it has its benefits.

Why it happens? Perhaps it is in connection with my overall slow/faulty memory recalling ability.

Is this discussion about this? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_of_the_tongue



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02 Aug 2011, 5:18 am

Dhawal wrote:
OJani wrote:
I do it (muddling up words) with less simple words, saying something I didn't mean, substituting intended words to inappropriate ones, and these are not Freudian slips (something form the subconscious). I notice it immediately after and correct as I can. Sometimes I just make a strange association and thus make my speech less understandable.

As for medication, I avoid them all. I try to manage without them as much as I can. With time & effort it helps, I believe on the long term it has its benefits.

Why it happens? Perhaps it is in connection with my overall slow/faulty memory recalling ability.

Is this discussion about this? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_of_the_tongue

Not being able to speak concisely and inadvertently saying inappropriate words may be a little different. I like the description under Transmission deficit model though, it has some resonance.



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02 Aug 2011, 5:20 am

Dhawal wrote:
OJani wrote:
I do it (muddling up words) with less simple words, saying something I didn't mean, substituting intended words to inappropriate ones, and these are not Freudian slips (something form the subconscious). I notice it immediately after and correct as I can. Sometimes I just make a strange association and thus make my speech less understandable.

As for medication, I avoid them all. I try to manage without them as much as I can. With time & effort it helps, I believe on the long term it has its benefits.

Why it happens? Perhaps it is in connection with my overall slow/faulty memory recalling ability.

Is this discussion about this? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tip_of_the_tongue


Not quite. Not being able to recall a specific word (tip of the tongue) happens to everyone, but the problem that many with aspergers seem to have is that they know exactly what they want to say but often to words seem to come out garbled and not meaning what was intended. Or you have an idea or concept in your head but just cannot find the appropriate language to convey this and any attempt just sounds addled and confused, even to ourselves.



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02 Aug 2011, 6:38 am

My mind and my tongue tend to disagree on what I should say. In your example, I could say "could you pass me the salt" when I was talking about the knife because my mind had closed off the knife sentence and went on to thinking about salt (usually because someone else is talking about the salt). This can lead to some rather extreme garbles. I have the same problem when typing. I generally don't need to look at the keyboard and don't need to think about typing, so my mind often wanders and that sometimes makes me replace words in my story with words I was thinking of.



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02 Aug 2011, 7:17 am

If you were say 10 years older, I might say it is time to be concerned about mental loss. A LOT of people see similar things happen infrequently.

As it is, since you are STILL young, I would say to check your diet. Did something change? Are yu stressed out, etc? Did you start smoking?