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04 Aug 2011, 9:34 pm

Most people on the spectrum seem to be among the least offensive people I've ever communicated with. Granted I know very few A.S. in my life, but I think I can be too nice for my own good at times. Is this true for you? Do you think it is a consequence of poor social awareness and trying to make up for social mistakes?

I know much of the world views being nice as being synonymous with being weak. I know I try not being too nice for fear of being taken advantage of at places like work and school. How 'bout you?



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04 Aug 2011, 9:40 pm

I like to think I'm quite nice. :) That being said, I was also raised with manners and was taught to treat everyone politely and with respect.

FYI, I have been called rude before because I misunderstand people and sometimes say inappropriate things that are quite blunt. Being rude (usually) is unintentional. I really do try to treat everyone politely and with respect though, and I hope most people see this.


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04 Aug 2011, 9:41 pm

In some situations/ according to some people, I am too nice; in other situaitons/ according to other people, I am not nice enough. But either way, I can't win.

Even more interestingly, one of my problems is that I don't communicate. Yet, according to one of my former professors who hates me, I communicate too much. So I didn't get one more year extension for postdoc for two opposite reasons. If you ask that specific prof, I shouldn't be there because I communicate too much. If you ask everyone else, I shouldn't be there because I don't communicate enough. But the bottom like is that I shouldn't be there, however way you slice it.



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04 Aug 2011, 9:43 pm

Depends on the situation. I try to be nice, but I frequently lose my patience and fail.


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04 Aug 2011, 9:46 pm

I can be rude and outright irritating at times but ever since I can remember I have been too nice to everyone most of the time. I was raised that way. Mom and dad are nice and polite -- especially mom. Mom's called naive and innocent by almost everyone she meets. Its the family I guess.



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04 Aug 2011, 10:16 pm

I`m very nice, sometimes too nice. I think every AS person I`ve met so far is extremely nice!


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04 Aug 2011, 10:17 pm

Just remember, when you are tempted to be "too nice", that letting people walk all over you doesn't benefit them, because it teaches them that walking all over people is okay.


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04 Aug 2011, 10:24 pm

i don't know. I've been yelled at for being rude when i thought i was being nice. although some people will treat me like a door mat.



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04 Aug 2011, 10:31 pm

What is nice? Nice is another person's judgement, and not necessarily an intrinsic trait. Nice is what other people decide it to be. As such, you have no control over what other people will judge to be "nice". I'd like to think that other people think that I'm nice, and I know my intentions are good, so that should be enough, right?

Maybe not. If I don't smile enough or if I appear neutral or indifferent then other people won't think that I'm nice. If I go too far out of my way to accommodate or gain favor then I may appear weak or obsequious. If I'm honest about why something probably won't work or be economical then I appear unpleasant or arrogant. I still don't have this "nice" thing figured out. Luckily my career position enables me to get to the center of issues and tell it like it is. Therefore, I've dropped most of the pretense of being "nice" and this dropping of pretense shows up in the way some of my patents are written. "Nice" just doesn't work for some of us, and so perhaps another archetype might be a better fit and/or more useful.


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05 Aug 2011, 9:54 am

If I remember my childhood correctly (and my parents would agree), I was really sweet natured, and wouldn't intentionally harm anyone or anything. I seemed to have a quest to help others. I would sit for hours with the girl who was struggling with reading and the boy with speech difficulties, helping them. Those kids really appreciated it and kept coming back for more 'tuition'. I also love nature and was very protective of anything living. Other kids laughed as I tried to protect a young plant from being trampled and saw this as a sign of stupidity. At around 7yrs, I seemed to become aware of being laughed at for things like this and my other obvious differences. I became painfully shy, until just a few years ago. Now, I realise that I'm in the minority, although there's many like me here on WP. It's hard to live in a world which you care deeply about, when most others couldn't care less about anything, except the trivial.

My 5yr old daughter also has this mindset, but her nature is very different to mine. She exhibits care about things to the detriment of friendships. E.g. She was annoyed when her friend almost accidentally killed a fly. She went on and on about it until her friend was in tears. Her school report card hinted at this. I rationalised it with her not being cut out to be a politician, but she'll maybe make a great political activist.



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05 Aug 2011, 10:00 am

I am naive about other people's intentions and always helpful, as well as loyal to people I care about. If that is nice, then I am nice. Also, I am sometimes qualified as being too nice or too chivalrous by other people.


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05 Aug 2011, 11:52 am

I am told I am a very nice person. I think it kind of has its advantages and disadvantages though. When I make some sort of social mistake my personality probably earns me a bit more forgiveness since I think I appear more naive than intentionally harmful.... maybe?

Callista wrote:
Just remember, when you are tempted to be "too nice", that letting people walk all over you doesn't benefit them, because it teaches them that walking all over people is okay.


Being too nice has its negative consequences for both me and the other person. For example, I have spent way too many hours and lost sleep helping other's debug their computer programming assignments in college when I should have been doing my own homework. If someone approaches me with a bug in a program I get so easily suckered in. I think people know this have taken advantage of that too, where they would ask for my advice on a 'simple' problem and I help... then there is another underlying problem and 4 hours I am still there and have practically done the assignment for them. Half the problem is I don't really realize when this is happening until its all over and I start thinking about my own responsibilities again. The thing is they probably don't learn anything (though I hope at least they would listen to my explanations) and I don't get my own things done. :?


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05 Aug 2011, 12:01 pm

I know I am too nice because I fear conflict.

But being too nice can cause big issues sometimes.


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05 Aug 2011, 12:03 pm

No; it's not about being "too nice" - that's generally what people who are just about to walk over you will say.

Really, it just means not standing your ground when you probably really should.



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05 Aug 2011, 12:04 pm

FearOfMusic wrote:
I am told I am a very nice person. I think it kind of has its advantages and disadvantages though. When I make some sort of social mistake my personality probably earns me a bit more forgiveness since I think I appear more naive than intentionally harmful.... maybe?

Callista wrote:
Just remember, when you are tempted to be "too nice", that letting people walk all over you doesn't benefit them, because it teaches them that walking all over people is okay.


Being too nice has its negative consequences for both me and the other person. For example, I have spent way too many hours and lost sleep helping other's debug their computer programming assignments in college when I should have been doing my own homework. If someone approaches me with a bug in a program I get so easily suckered in. I think people know this have taken advantage of that too, where they would ask for my advice on a 'simple' problem and I help... then there is another underlying problem and 4 hours I am still there and have practically done the assignment for them. Half the problem is I don't really realize when this is happening until its all over and I start thinking about my own responsibilities again. The thing is they probably don't learn anything (though I hope at least they would listen to my explanations) and I don't get my own things done. :?


If you have your own responsibilities you must take care of first, you have a ready-made excuse right there. Use it!



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05 Aug 2011, 12:06 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I rationalised it with her not being cut out to be a politician, but she'll maybe make a great political activist.


God, she'd be the last sort of person we need. Many political activists like that seem rather... divorced from reality.