non self-report tests for AS/autism online

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I know about the 'reading the mind in the eyes' test here. (I scored 28 on it, so in the low-average range.) Do you know of any others? It seems like most of the online autism tests are self-report (ie ask you to assess yourself instead of directly testing you).

But even a formal test is going to rely on self reporting. How can an assessor answer for you?

My formal test did not rely on me self-reporting AT ALL. For the first half, my father was interviewed for a couple hours. For the second part, I was asked to complete a variety of tasks, and then *she* assessed *me* based on my performance. No self-reporting necessary.

On the other side, my formal evaluation did include self-reporting. There was also interviewing of my parents, and various tests done (including observing my reactions to them), but I actually had the AQ and the EQ as part of my formal assessment, as well as a section of interviewing me.

My mistake. What kinds of tasks did they ask you to perform?

What I meant is like this:

Self-report test sample question: I have trouble telling what other people are feeling. Strongly Agree, Agree, Neutral, Disagree or Strongly Disagree.

Objective test sample question: *shows picture* What emotion is this person feeling? Anger, Boredom, Confusion, Tiredness.

Objective tests require you to show your abilities etc instead of just describing them.

I had both self-report tests and objective tests as part of my diagnosis. In fact both of those questions (though it was a different list of emotions, and there were many more than one question for that) were part of my diagnosis.

I don't know of other objective tests online though. Maybe look for one that has to do with recognizing when someone is telling the truth vs. being sarcastic. I had one of those in my diagnosis, but I'm not sure if there is an online version.

I found this test which asesses verbal memory and executive function, gives you a standard score normed like IQ. I got 89 on verbal memory (86 on correct hits immediate, 111 on correct passes immediate, 85 on correct hits delayed, 109 on correct passes delayed) and 59 on shifting attention (63 on correct responses, 71 on errors and 89 on correct reaction time).

And this one for fast recognition of facial expressions, but it doesn't tell you the normal score (I got 2 out of 10 right - could some NTs please take it and tell me their scores?).

Oh, and this site has a bunch of them. My scores:

Test of Nonverbal Sensitivity Short Form (they call that short?) - 44 out of 64 or 69% accurate, average is 80% accurate.

Tenoral feelings - 2/15 scale interpretations, 4/10 melody interpretations

I guess I just needed to look harder.

No one else interested in this? I keep worrying when I take self-report tests that my personal biases will make me answer it wrong.

I am very much interested in this (being a methodology freak much like you seem to be) but I haven't found anything beyond the "mind in the eyes" test and I also found that to be a bit sketchy: I stared for minutes at those eyes with no idea what they were. I just started thinking "what's the cartoon version of this face" and then trying to apply that knowledge, but that doesn't seem like the inherent skill that NTs apparently have. Do you have links to the other tests? I would be interested in those.

I've also heard that some people ask others to take the AQ test for them or some such, because they are better at answering questions which would be self-reporting to you. There was a list with Aspie traits on this forum here recently and I intend to ask a friend of mine to look at it and say which I have so that I can compare it to my own answers.

The links are in the post - linked text looks a bit smaller.

For example, in the below statement, 'this test' is linked:

I found this test of ability to detect fake vs real smiles and scored 14/20.

Oh man, someone needs to make that linked text stand out more. I keep missing them (I've personally decided to start bolding them but it's still annoying).

I scored 29/36 on the Mind in the Eyes test, by the way. But I think the test told me the average was 22-30. Might be because of the male-female thing though.

I can't tell you an NT score, but I can tell you that as a diagnosed aspie I got 2 right.

And on the smiles one I got 13/20 right

I'm looking at other ones of those now.

Verbal memory I got 115 (110 correct hits immediate, 95 correct passes immediate, 115 correct hits delay, 109 correct passes delay), this is 84th percentile.

Shifting attention I got 97 (96 on correct responses, 100 on errors, and 113 on correct reaction time). This is 42nd percentile

Amusingly enough, when I was tested for both memory and executive function in that sort in my official diagnosis I scored poorer because of the subject. I only got 77th percentile on memory, because it was based off of remembering numbers and I kept being distracted by looking for patterns, and I don't know about the executive function, but I scored borderline ADHD on the test of "click for every letter except x" because I just didn't process x different than other letters unlike shape and color being different to me.

I'm not sure how much my shifting attention scores are accurate rather than incredibly biased. I for a while played a lot of a game that involved matching shapes or colors depending on the situation, and trained myself to have a very good reaction time to that in particular and better accuracy than other things to swap between.

Here's a click-able link that looks like a link:

http://glennrowe.net/BaronCohen/Faces/EyesTest.aspx.

Actually, one glance at that page and I want to shout "Aaaargghhh!" and enter a catatonic state. Okay, I'm being goofy and hyperbolic, I didn't really have a panic attack. But eyes make me very uncomfortable. I immediately click away in a reflex reaction.

I might conclude, somewhat ludicrously and somewhat seriously, that the scores are irrelevant, and the real question is whether you dug in and answered the questions or took one look and fled.

Last edited by PseudointellectualHorse on 16 Aug 2011, 3:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

Yeah, I noticed in the 'set of scientific tests for AS' a bunch of people tried to take that test and couldn't finish it, either because the eyes freaked them out or they got frustrated with answering randomly. Those people are probably more autistic than the ones who finished it and scored poorly.