Do autistic/aspie people generally do well in education?
Do they usually have many qualifications? You see, I ended up with a limited amount, but my sibling who is really not interested in academic subjects (doesn't bother to read books etc.) got three times as many as I did. What possibly went wrong? (I understand there are many variables, like schools or teachers, which were different for both of us, but I'm trying to narrow it down.)
I was usually behind the rest of my class all through school, and if I wasn't, I was just about caught up with them. I was never ahead, and all of my GCSE grades were quite poor. Most of the other girls in my class got As, Bs and Cs in at least 2 subjects.
If I was supposed to be cleverer than the rest, why was I put in the lowest sets in high school, and why was I put in the ''special needs'' group, with 5 or 6 other children from the class who had learning difficulties? ![]()
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I had tons of trouble in grade school, starting around second grade when I was given actual homework. I tested into all the advanced programs, but could not handle the amount of work given to me and refused to do it when I thought it was boring or too easy. By the time I started high school, I learned that I only did well in "advanced classes" if I didn't have any distractions from other (less interesting) classes holding me back, and sort of managed to get my act together enough to get into a decent college. Once there, I managed to find difficult classes that weren't much "busy work" ormemorization and I started making honor roll! So I guess even if you don't think you can do well, if you figure out what works for you you can at least do your best!
I'm exactly like this. When not interested in a course, I'll get a very bad grade.
I also have a great deal of difficulty with "learning by heart" courses.
As with the non-autistic population, this is going to vary on an individual basis. There will be people on the spectrum who have learning disabilities and will find formal education difficult. There will be people on the spectrum who have no difficulties, and might excel in academics. I have classic autism. I am not sure what my IQ is, but according to the many online tests I have taken (which are not completely accurate...but at least they all agree within a few points!) my IQ is well above average. I had some difficulties understanding more abstract concepts in science and math, but overall, I was a very good student. In grade 9, I was at the top of the school. Then I became a high school drop out who had poor grades and more absences than days present on my record. This was not because of academics though. I went back for my high school diploma with a very high average, and a couple years later I went to university where I am now going into my fourth year. Socially, I am a failure. I thought I would have friends, but I really do not. Academically is a different story, and the disability office AT FIRST was almost hesitant to take me seriously because of my grades. My GPA was a 4.0, and it is not far from that now. I always do well in school, but I have trouble with the deadlines. I research and write my essays the day they are do, but I still always get As on them. I have no problem at all in school when it comes to academics. I know a lot of autistic people do, but many do not, and I am one of them. I have no problem with the education aspect, just the social aspects of school.
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Diagnosed with classic Autism
AQ score= 48
PDD assessment score= 170 (severe PDD)
EQ=8 SQ=93 (Extreme Systemizer)
Alexithymia Quiz=164/185 (high)
I do pretty well in academics. I know two Aspies, one who has also gotten through university and one who completely crashed after getting into uni (it has nothing to do with his intelligence either, as he is probably more intelligent than I am). As with all things, it depends on the person, not on the condition.
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AQ: 40/50
EQ: 17/50
SQ: 72/80 (Extreme Synthesiser)
Aspie test: about 150/200 Aspie, about 40/200 NT
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I'm similar to this. Except I haven't been able to finish college. When I started college I did exceptionally well, though I was pretty much only taking courses related to computer science and math (things I have a deep interest in). I ended up always doing the extra credit and had grades over 100% several times (I think my highest was close to 125% in a programming class). At this point I have only general education sorts of classes left to take, but those have been much more of a struggle for me than anything else.
Part of it is a lack of interest but part of it is a lack of understanding and maturity for subjects like literature. Looking back on the last literature class I failed... I pretty much had to hold back laughing every lecture because I thought pretty much everything the professor said was hilarious. No one else laughed as much as I did. He probably wasn't really all that funny but maybe the material just flew over my head?
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I do relatively well in academics. My IQ haven't tested particularly high so far, and I have some learning difficulties too. After highschool (a vocational course) I went to Uni, where I studied economics. The subjects I had to take weren't among my favourites most of the time, to be honest. I was best at computer programming and fairly good at statistics. Math wasn't my strong point, despite I was among the best on a national Math competition after my first year on highschool... My grades were significantly lower at the Uni than before, but still above average. I happened to have the chance to acquire a postgraduate MBA diploma (finances and IT), and on top of all this I acquired a certificate for financial auditing too.
So, I have a pretty large pile of diplomas and certificates, yet the main problem is to make good use of all those academic knowledge I've learned. There's no doubt a discrepancy between my current job and my academics, not to mention my initial interests and current specialization...
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"Aut viam inveniam aut faciam." (Hannibal) - Latin for "I'll either find a way or make one."
The school system fails a lot of people. I trained as a physics teacher, and attended two universities, and I don't think much of the education system. I remember the good kids would really worry about getting an extra five percent on a test, but tests are just not that accurate. Heck, in this year's exams they found some of the questions were just flat out wrong. As schools more more to continuous assessment (i.e. less time to check each test) it will get worse.
My girlfriend (at least I hope she's still my girlfriend) is a good example of this. Nobody in her school achieved much, and she ended up thinking she was stupid and working as a waitress. Nothing wrong with waitressing, but a few years later she tried to join the RAF and had to take some tests. They were amazed at her intelligence. She went on to do three degrees and get a job as a scientist. Schools failed her completely.
So if you don't do well at school that doesn't mean you're stupid.
I've done pretty well in school, although I got picked on by some teachers due to uneven abilities. When I was younger I wasn't very good at math. Got picked on a lot because I was good at every other subject. Nobody even heard of autism then. They thought if I was so smart and didn't do well in something, I must be not trying hard enough. I also had trouble with self-discipline a lot. When you're good at your subjects, somehow the teachers assume you're advanced in maturity and are a "good kid", therefore they don't believe you might have trouble controlling your actions. They also gave me additional responsibilities due to my "good kid" image, I think it's like a student leader, you get to scold misbehaving kids and try to be a good example yourself, and give speech at assembly or something.
I never did well with those roles, somehow they never let me go, just told me I gotta try to do better.
My parents were also very confusing. They hardly paid attention to me or my schoolwork. When I show them I got 100% in tests, they told me I must not be proud, or I might not get 100% for the next test.
Then they turn around and brag to everybody else about how talented their girl was, right in front of me. Made me want to hide in a hole. Of course if I didn't get 100% they'd tell me to reflect on what I did wrong and why I didn't achieve the perfect marks. And try harder next time of course. I still don't know if that was good for kids or not, all I know was I hated that. I didn't like school. Everytime I got a fever I was very happy because I could miss school. To this day I strive to be different from my parents and be content.
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AQ score: 44
Aspie mom to two autistic sons (23 & 22)
