wanting to create bill making bullying illegal

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After reading about the latest bullying related suicide, I decided that we need to do something,
With all the press bullying is getting now, we need to strike while iron is hot.

So I emailed Alex about creating a petition and him representing WP and the autistic community to talk to congress about creating a bill to be passed that makes bullying illegal

We have a window of oppertunity here while the press is on the issue...lets not get bogged down in hopelessness, nothing stays the same...everything is always changing.

So what I am asking you all to do is email Alex...his email is at the top under "contact me" Telling him that you want him and others to go to congress representing the autistic community to get a bill passed making bullying illegal
We also want teachers that see bullying and do nothing to be held accountable as well.

Please support me on this.


Jojo

I think that Canada and Ireland have laws that prohibit bullying in the workplace and as a recipient of services, but neither country has effective enforcement. Most schools subscribe to anti-bullying codes of conduct, and some handle bullying very effectively.

The most important issue is to have a legal definition of the words "bully" and "bullying", because enforcement is impossible without an effective definition of what constitutes bullying. A particular issue is including bullying actions that are not intentional, but nevertheless are avoidable actions that humiliate others (e.g. office banter, social obligations that indirectly discriminate, behaviours which are extremely offensive to sensitive / vulnerable individuals).

Why don't we make cheating on your wife illegal as well while we're at it? How about making it illegal to tell someone they are a BIG FAT poopy-pants?

Cause and effect, do happy people bully?

I must admit, I really don't understand what's going on with the kids these days.

I clearly remember getting bullied in school, going home, and not thinking about killing myself...

I've got someone lining me up here cause I've been a bit too fresh for a foreigner

Its the cosmic ying yang
that you would have to ban
As hippies create police
And police create hippies
Nerds create jocks
And jocks create nerds

Beavis: "But master, does not the fire need the water, does not the mountain need the storm too? And does not your scrotum need the kicking?"

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I agree that online, and real time, bullies should be punished. Hard part is proving the subtle ones. Bullys are stupid though, so easy to set up for a fall with microphones and camera's. Online evidence is relatively easy too unless they are at an internet cafe or on a machine purchased second hand, with prepay internet.

Even then store cameras will record the purchased internet credit, you would need a fake beard and ....

Wireless signal triangulation... STFU

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This will probably make me pretty unpopular but...

Bullying is wrong. But no one is responsible for the actions of others. When someone kills themself over being bullied, no one is to blame but themself.

And no one ever seems to look at the actions of the one being "bullied." I don't want to speak ill of any specific dead people, but when you look at the actions of some of the bullied, being harassed counts as getting off light.

And I should mention here that I was the recipient of some truly awful treatment as a kid. Up to and including being assaulted. And yes, assault is the right word. It went far far beyond simple schoolyard tussles. But if I had killed myself, the responsibility for that would have been on my shoulders.

I disagree. You better duck dude.

One of the two:

1) The bullying consist in actions that are already illegal (in these case the law is redundant)

2) or the bullying consist in actions that are not illegal per se, but will be illegal if it occured in the context of bullying (and, in this case the law will be subject to abuse - try to define "bullying" in a way that could be accepted in a court "without reasonable doubt")

Pointless.

There are laws covering most activities associated with "bullying".

The only exceptions seem to be dirty looks, disagreeing, snubbing, and generally letting someone feel bad if they're determined to do so.

Does the OP want to make his feelings the legal responsibility of everyone else? Do YOU want to be held legally accountable if he claims that you made him feel bad because you disagreed with him?

How much of a fine would you be willing to pay for telling someone, "I think you're wrong", "Get real", "Shut up and deal with it", "Grown up", "Stop whining", or even "Get a job"?

Yeah, I would not sign this petition, and I've been hurt by bullying. There's already, as been posted before, laws against every activity construed as bullying, there's laws against harassment, etc. You can even technically get a restraining order against said bully in most states depending on how bad the situation is. There's stuff legally you can do to screw a bully's life up greatly, however, I and most others I think would rather take the high road and not do things like restraining orders or filing harassment charges.

Yes, actually.

Fnord sums up my feelings on the subject.

I can see this backfiring spectacularly.

What about the kids who are picked on by the whole class until they're so fed up with it that they do something back? I can see people engaging in constant passive-aggression until they make the target snap and then having them prosecuted for bullying. It would be very difficult to prove such a thing happened if everyone is determined to remain quiet about it.

And I know I personally don't want to get charged or fined whenever I look at someone the wrong way. Sometimes I can't help it and I've paid dearly for it without police involvement.

Sure it would be nice...but its not going to happen in this society, I mean its all about competitiion and making it to the top and well bullying does not interfere with that........so I doubt any lawmakers care enough to make it illegal.

Lady Gaga wants a law, if that helps.