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26 Sep 2011, 9:36 pm

I'm not judging users of the word, which is saying something given the Aspergian propensity to aloofness pertaining to my personal reasonings, but I LOATHE this cutsie label. If I had to attempt to delineate my reason for this feeling I would say because it is tending toward an unscientific shade, and I believe aspergian ability should ideally be devoted to scientific progress. Well also art, which may seem contradictory . . . i guess i have a hard time seeing beyond my own passions. But come on it's just two extra syllables and it bugs the shiz out of me. Anyone in concurrence?



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26 Sep 2011, 9:52 pm

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26 Sep 2011, 9:55 pm

I hate the word aspie and aspergian.

I always feel when people say 'aspie' they are talking about one type of people and forgetting about the rest of the spectrum.
When they say 'aspergian' I know they are.


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26 Sep 2011, 9:57 pm

actually, i am a social worker and the trend is not to call people by their diseases at all. i am not an aspie. i am a PERSON who happens to have asperger's. it's called person-first terminology. my husband thinks it's too PC, but i have changed my way of talking. i don't deal with schizophrenics. i deal with people or individuals who have schizophrenia. i think the autism population could benefit from this way of looking at themselves. of course, then we have to stop calling people NT's. they would be people who tend to behave neurotypicallly or behave NT. it's sort of neat, because people are so much more than a collection of their diagnoses.



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26 Sep 2011, 9:58 pm

I hate just the word Asperger all together. Of all the names you can give a condition that causes social rejection they have to pick one where the first syllable is "ass". Yes I know who Dr. Hans Asperger was and I mean no disrespect to him but it's just such an ugly sounding name. I'd rather tell someone I had Irritable Bowel Syndrome than admit to having Asperger's Syndrome.



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26 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

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I hate just the word Asperger all together. Of all the names you can give a condition that causes social rejection they have to pick one where the first syllable is "ass". Yes I know who Dr. Hans Asperger was and I mean no disrespect to him but it's just such an ugly sounding name. I'd rather tell someone I had Irritable Bowel Syndrome than admit to having Asperger's Syndrome.

It's kind of like when you sing along to song lyrics and someone tells you it's wrong.
90% of America is pronouncing it wrong. People in Australia don't pronounce it 'ass burgers' but they still don't pronounce it right.


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26 Sep 2011, 10:05 pm

It comes down to our personal opinions of the term Aspie. Some people will like it, some will not, and some will be indifferent. That is just human nature. Since others have stated their opinions (and I respect that), I will state mine. I like the term Aspie. I also like the name of this condition---Asperger's. And realize this is just my opinion worthy of the same respect that I have for those who do not care for these terms. We are all entitled to what we like and dislike.


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26 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

Gawd, not another topic about "labels". :roll:



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26 Sep 2011, 10:08 pm

I don't like Aspie or Aspergian. I try not to use Aspie, but sometimes, I slip. I've used Aspergian maybe once or twice. I hate person-first language for autism. Aspie, Aspergian, AssPie and AssBurger are all better than person who happens to have Asperger(')(s) (Syndrome)(Disorder).



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26 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

cathylynn wrote:
actually, i am a social worker and the trend is not to call people by their diseases at all. i am not an aspie. i am a PERSON who happens to have asperger's. it's called person-first terminology. my husband thinks it's too PC, but i have changed my way of talking. i don't deal with schizophrenics. i deal with people or individuals who have schizophrenia. i think the autism population could benefit from this way of looking at themselves. of course, then we have to stop calling people NT's. they would be people who tend to behave neurotypicallly or behave NT. it's sort of neat, because people are so much more than a collection of their diagnoses.


I view it as Asperger's isn't a disease, its a disability and a disorder but /not/ a disease, and not something I just happen to have. It's part of me intrinsically. Therefore saying I have Asperger's actually doesn't get nearly as much across as saying "I am an aspie".

I use "I am an aspie" and "I am autistic". I actively dislike saying "I have Asperger's Syndrome", because it makes it sound like this thing that is disjoint from me rather than part of me.



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26 Sep 2011, 10:17 pm

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actually, i am a social worker and the trend is not to call people by their diseases at all. i am not an aspie. i am a PERSON who happens to have asperger's. it's called person-first terminology. my husband thinks it's too PC, but i have changed my way of talking. i don't deal with schizophrenics. i deal with people or individuals who have schizophrenia. i think the autism population could benefit from this way of looking at themselves. of course, then we have to stop calling people NT's. they would be people who tend to behave neurotypicallly or behave NT. it's sort of neat, because people are so much more than a collection of their diagnoses.


I'm with Jim Sinclair on this one:

http://autismmythbusters.com/general-pu ... -language/

I actually bristled when my therapist said something similar to me. Sadly, she didn't notice, and I got sidetracked into something else before I could explain why that doesn't resonate with me. I find person first language both awkward and counterintuitive in a lot of contexts.

I still remember a psych student telling me I was bigoted against myself because I said "ADHDer" instead of "person with ADHD." But whatever. My diagnoses reflect aspects of who I am, and without them I wouldn't be the same person. I'm okay with that, and I want my differences to be respected - not minimized or shuffled aside.

I am autistic, or I am an autistic person. I am not a person with autism.



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26 Sep 2011, 10:38 pm

cathylynn wrote:
actually, i am a social worker and the trend is not to call people by their diseases at all. i am not an aspie. i am a PERSON who happens to have asperger's. it's called person-first terminology. my husband thinks it's too PC, but i have changed my way of talking. i don't deal with schizophrenics. i deal with people or individuals who have schizophrenia. i think the autism population could benefit from this way of looking at themselves. of course, then we have to stop calling people NT's. they would be people who tend to behave neurotypicallly or behave NT. it's sort of neat, because people are so much more than a collection of their diagnoses.


while i can commend the reason behind what your saying, i still dont think its all that logical. Its just linguistic inconvenience. Where do you draw the line? I am a male, should i say i am a human with male sex organs? I am a human, should i say i am a mammal with human characteristics?

I understand what your trying to do is avoid negative connotations or pegging someone in a hole, saying they are defined by certain aspects of their identity. But i personally think those delineations can be explored as a separate thought process, rather than tailoring word formatting to attempt to make certain implications, or remove them



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26 Sep 2011, 10:39 pm

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It comes down to our personal opinions of the term Aspie. Some people will like it, some will not, and some will be indifferent. That is just human nature. Since others have stated their opinions (and I respect that), I will state mine. I like the term Aspie. I also like the name of this condition---Asperger's. And realize this is just my opinion worthy of the same respect that I have for those who do not care for these terms. We are all entitled to what we like and dislike.

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26 Sep 2011, 10:44 pm

I like Aspie. Even though I've only _known_ about it for a couple of years, I've spent a lot of that time reading about it, and always finding more things that go back as far as I remember, that I thought were just me and my atypical personality. I don't want a cure. If somebody came along and zapped me with a cure, I wouldn't recognize me. Maybe they could cure little kids, who don't know who they are yet anyway. But I like who I am, even though it has its downsides.

When I was little I thought I invented echolalia, and my parents thought so too, and thought I was doing it just to drive them up the walls. And _I_ thought so too! Turns out it was just me and my Aspie self.



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26 Sep 2011, 11:02 pm

I hate the word "aspie" cuz it sounds like "ass pie".
And I hate the word "asperger" cuz it sounds like "ass burger".

Why did we have to get stuck with the disorder that sounds like ass + (insert type of food here)? It's so unappealing.


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26 Sep 2011, 11:26 pm

Well, at least it wasn't discovered by a French doctor named Dumas. It could've been worse. :lol:

There is the Austrian pronunciation which is, I think, "ash-per-ger," which somewhat gets the "ass" out of it.