Jack the Ripper Casebook...

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http://www.casebook.org/

Very interesting site!

I love that site, Sophist. I don't visit it regularly anymore, but a few years ago I was very into Jack the Ripper. I still think he's very interesting.

I hadn't visited that site for about two years. I was very into serial killers about three or so years ago (I have a fair book collection to prove it ) and so I frequented that site quite often.

I saw they had a postmortem on Mary Kelly and so I went and looked up all the postmortem examination records (with Google) and was really into seeing anything which could give away something about ol' Jacky. I even drew out the bodies and where the wounds were and how deep, left to right, right to left, postmortem/premortem, etc.

Loved all that stuff.

If you go to this site, http://triumphpc.com/jack-the-ripper/index.shtml, you can 'talk' to Jack the Ripper. It's pretty amusing.

All the 2nd site is a glorified Eliza machine.

Nice but predicatible.

Thanks for the links Sophist and Bec. I read anything about Jack the Ripper! There are as many books as there are angles and identities about him. To this day, they really don't know who he was.

Do any of you have any thoughts on who it might have been. I'm leaning more to someone in the medical profession.

I saw a documentary on TV last year (I think it was the History Channel, but I'm not sure) that talked about who it might've been. They went through each suspect and gave reasons why he couldn't have been Jack the Ripper. There was one by the end that they said they couldn't really disprove. I can't remember his name.

They did come up with an interesting point, though. The historians they interviewed said that heads of police at the time had to have known who Jack the Ripper was. Why? Because there was a certain amount of time between most of the murders (Mary Ann Nichols on 31 August 1888, Annie Chapman on 8 September 1888, Elizabeth Stride on 30 September 1888, Catherine Eddowes on 30 September 1888, Mary Jane Kelly on 9 November 1888). The longest amount of time is between the 8th and 30th of September. That is three weeks. At the time most of London's police were working in Whitechapel in attempt to stop the murders. Less than three weeks after the death of Mary Jane Kelly most of the police had left Whitechapel to work elsewhere. The heads of police knew that Jack the Ripper had stopped. They must have known who he was.

Maybe it was the qeen Victora's grandson prince Albert Victor.The chief of police had writing on the wall removed in whitechapel the night after the double murders before the police photographers could get to it. The Queen also took a great deal of interest in this case which was unusual. As far as i know there is still a few ellegible suspects though. So it is doubful if anyone will ever be proved to have been guilty.

I got to go on a Jack the Ripper tour - to all the murder sites - when I was in England one time . . . it was interesting . . .
Some of the areas are still not the best in the world, so that was a little scary!

I think criminology is the most facinating thing in the world - one of my personal goals in life is non-violence - so to me it is essential to understand the other side - extreme violence - to see why my goal is so imporant . . .

Ted Bundy and Charles Manson are my particular interests - Bundy is a classic psychopath and Manson is such an amazing manipulator . . .

That kind of stuff makes me wanna barf. And it scares me. The least scary ones Lizie Borden. That only makes me half sick.

I am the same but I have lived in this world. I have know a serial rapist and two serial murders. I have just lived a charmed life because I am still here. This is what happens when you are rasied in the world of crime. Dad was a mafia driver for some years.

There is a reason I split from my family and now live in a totally different world.

1. It always makes me wonder why many people think of Manson as a serial killer.

2. Have you ever seen Bundy's last interview??? (I have it. Very interesting.)

PS- I collect all those serial killer flics they put out, too. Bundy (I still need to get the first Bundy movie), both Damer movies, Gein ( ), Ramirez, a couple Mansons, Gacy, Speck, Wuornos, and a couple of others.

Whys your avatar so big?

Did you see 'Monster'? - that must be a really emotionally charged movie because it got to me . . .

I always wonder, just legally speaking, how it is that they managed to convict Manson - it is clear that he had something to do with the murders - obviously - but just from a legal point of view he was never there for any of them . . .

Gein is just bizarre . . . the more I hear about him the wierder he becomes . . . and Chicotele (I know that is spelled wrong - the guy in Russia who Hannibal Lector is based on) he is really scary . . . Ramirez is pretty scary, too . . .

Yeah, I've seen Bundy's last interview - it is interesting to see how scared he was . . .

What is really wierd is that Zodiac scares me - I have no clue why - I can't watch shows about him without having panic attacks - who knows why . . .

ilikedragons - did you know that Lizzie Borden was never convicted due to the fact that no one could find her clothes and that she went on to live a normal life and be a school teacher?

Saw it and loved it. It was absolutely fascinating to see that woman portrayed as so human, to see how step by step the killings went from self-defense to far beyond. It shows the degree to which circumstances can make a thing seem right, even if by objective standards it's seriously wrong.

One line really struck me, from an interview with the real woman the movie character was based on. "The thing nobody ever realized about me was that I had trained myself to be able to do anything."

D***... a little further down a different path, and I might have been saying that myself.

then you were standing outside where i used to go to school, animallover - one of the sites is Backchurch Lane, which is where i did what was then called Home Economics lessons when i was about 11 or 12.