What do you think about me

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Berabara
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17 Dec 2016, 5:22 pm

do u enjoy talking to me or not do u think i'm bad person in real life or not because i dont feel belong the earth feels like everyone hates me right all over world did not understand me even my parents has no patience's i have social interaction issues but i'm trying harder its frustrating so what you think about me?

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You are very likely neurodiverse (Aspie)

Diagnosis Asperger's Syndrome back in 2005
also have Anxiety Disorder, OCD

Severe to Profound on my left ear and have cochlear implant on Right ear i'm Deaf

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17 Dec 2016, 6:01 pm

Well I don't know you, so I can't really give you an honest answer. I would say based on your post that you're very self cautious and have low self esteem though (much like myself).

People don't hate you. But you feel that way inside because you're low on confidence. Feeling like the entire world is against you is a trap that is quite common for people like us.

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AngryAngryAngry
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17 Dec 2016, 9:15 pm

I used to try with social stuff - before I knew my condition.
Now I know, and have given up. I could perhaps do better, but it would require a lot of work without any real payoff.
I have more social success when I act aloof and 'cool', become the mystery man. Say less.
Social situations to me are: People pretending to be 'normal', drama/gossip, powerplays, gang type behaviour (cliques).

schopenhauer with a keyboard
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18 Dec 2016, 2:25 am

AngryAngryAngry wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.
i guess they do conform to social trends and whatnot though (which is in their nature).
still, we're usually the ones that have to 'pretend' to be normal.

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18 Dec 2016, 2:50 am

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

Not really if they have any other disorders like OCD and anxiety or other mental illnesses they suffer from. They also pretend they're normal because they hide those conditions.

Plus normal is a relative word. Something might be normal for one person but not for the other or something might be normal for one family but not for the other, etc.

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18 Dec 2016, 3:13 am

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

NTs are by definition normal though lol.
OCD isn't really anything that infringes on ones social life to any significant degree to my awareness (plus i don't think people with it would be 'NT').
if an NT has anxiety it's almost never severe like in autism-related cases.
i've never seen an NT that was noticeably socially anxious/awkward let alone to the point were they're no longer normal. i've just never seen it.
if they have something like schizophrenia then they're not NT, NT isn't just 'not autistic'.
normal is generally defined by the majority, which is what NTs are.

Berabara
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18 Dec 2016, 6:14 am

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

what social interaction i talk about my self a lot but i have trouble with sharing interest with other people its hard for me its hard for autistic as well but i can do facial expression pretty well i have very strong emotions stronger than my mothers because i have meltdowns emotional factors stuff like that i wouldn't lie to you by the way but i can understand NT sometimes besides i'm deaf as well with cochlear implant and hearing aid i don't usually eye contact but i look at nose and mouth more than eyes but i can practice should i practice with social interaction?

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18 Dec 2016, 12:33 pm

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

People with social anxiety seem to struggle too and don't come off as NT to me at all because of their overlaps with autism. Maybe they aren't NT perhaps? NT normally means someone who doesn't have an ASD so I was just saying that just because someone is NT doesn't mean they don't have any problems but I am glad you explained what you mean by NT.

I think anxiety is a gray area for if they are still NT or not because it depends on how anxiety affects them. If it changes their functioning and how they process things and how they behave and it hampers their social skills and keeps them from getting a job or keeping one or affects their learning, then by definition they are not NT. A PTSD person might not be considered NT either if it impairs them and makes them function different than the rest of society. People with it can mimic symptoms of ASD but their symptoms are more trauma related. But of course if you met these people, you probably wouldn't consider them NT either.

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18 Dec 2016, 12:38 pm

Berabara wrote:

You come off as someone who has low self esteem and your anxiety really shows in your posts and your OCD because you keep obsessing about your autism diagnoses. I wonder if something happened that made you start doubting yourself and now you can't stop obsessing over it?

Also you could just have a mild case of it. You don't need to be textbook to have it. I think that is pretty rare for someone to have a textbook case. I have met plenty of aspies who could do sarcasm or pick up on it and understand humor and do normal conversations and small talk and do humor and were flexible and showed empathy and emotional support. I would be very surprised if any of these people said they have textbook AS because I would have a hard time believing it but if they said they were a textbook case, that's different.

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Berabara
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19 Dec 2016, 7:13 am

League_Girl wrote:

Berabara wrote:

i get stuck on the subjects is that from OCD or aspergers?

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19 Dec 2016, 9:04 am

AngryAngryAngry wrote:

Social situations to me are: People pretending to be 'normal', drama/gossip, powerplays, gang type behaviour (cliques).

Yeah, pretty much. That's how I look at it as well. And I see that, and usually wonder what in the heck everyone sees in it. Even when they talk, half the time they're talking about something some other person in/near the group said. They're talking about someone else talking. Usually in a "total jerk" sort of way. What kind of conversation even is that? I really dont get the point.

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NT's pretend often enough. They pretend to be polite, pretend to laugh, pretend to like someone (usually to be a part of a group)... they do an awful lot of pretending. It's a bit different than pretending to be "normal" in a way, but... still. I personally dont see the point in any of it.

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If you always see yourself as a bad person, or if you constantly think/assume that everyone hates you, you'll never spot someone LIKING you for what it is... you'll still just see negativity, even if it isnt there. The only other thing I can really say here is... well, if it's frustrating, maybe just take a step back for a bit. If you keep getting frustrated, it's going to show, when you're in a social situation. You'll appear stressed/angry, which doesnt help matters.

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20 Dec 2016, 11:14 am

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

yes maybe i am projecting to an extent but i'm just saying i've only seen a few people who i could tell had social anxiety and they were also clearly autistic like me.
i think it's a very rare thing - NTs are a social creature after all so to have a deficit there simply isn't a normal thing.
and yes when i say NT in this context mean anyone who is neurologically normal which means no apparent mental disorders.
you're probably right about PTSD sufferers (though i don't think i've met any), if they suffer from autism-like symptoms i'd probably call their case 'acquired autism'.
i believe they are much easier to cure than inherently autistic individuals.

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20 Dec 2016, 11:23 am

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

schopenhauer with a keyboard wrote:

NTs don't have to pretend to be normal lol.. they just are.

This is a very interesting read in the comments:

http://thoughtcatalog.com/chelsea-fagan ... n-asshole/

They even use the word neurotypical to refer to those who don't suffer anxiety disorders, depression, etc.

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20 Dec 2016, 11:25 am

Berabara wrote:

League_Girl wrote:

Berabara wrote:

i get stuck on the subjects is that from OCD or aspergers?

What subjects are you talking about?

I think you obsessing over your diagnoses about rather it's correct or not sounds like it's giving you anxiety and distress and that is what OCD is. People with it worry about rather something is real or not or if their problem is real or not, etc.

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20 Dec 2016, 1:44 pm

We have to pretend to be normal, but only if we want to. If I want to celebrate my differences by wearing a Schultz helmet or wearing unisex clothing, I do that. It's at work that I want to pretend to be normal.

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20 Dec 2016, 1:47 pm

You're a great person, but you could learn to be tolerant towards your sister.

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