Give me some ideas for Experiments pls :)

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17 Oct 2011, 5:22 pm

So I'm in a world of pain right now everything hurts and everything is just being left alone not intentionally, but it is; so wife I have nothing to loose, I can't possibly feel anymore pain than I have already, I need some experiments or trials if you will, things I can try to accomplish. Pls nothing sucicidal, but they can be some what over the edge. I don't know I was tossing out ideas early to myself like no sleep for some amount of time, playing video games nonstop for again some amount of time, or no water/drink for 3 days that's a good one, idk which ever seems interesting to you guys, and of you want I'll write in my blog section day by day analysis of how I'm feeling ....ect


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17 Oct 2011, 5:31 pm

Try Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT). Just google it and you will know what's it about (as I'm not sure if it is allowed to give links).
What you are about to do won't stop you pain, you will just forget about it for a time. EFT can help you to make it stop, if needed with a good practitioner.



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17 Oct 2011, 5:39 pm

If you want to try a wacky diet, the "master cleanse" is a good one. Nothing but honey & cayenne mixed with water. Good for the body, too.

Are you talking emotional pain or physical? Dr Sarno is a good place to look, either way...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Sarno

The basic principle of his pain management technique is metaphorical (i don't know if you process metaphors...) Basically, you look at pain like it is a "window." You must look through the window to see the world. If you just look at the window, you only see the flaws in the "glass" and filth upon it.

I have a couple friends with fibromyalgia, and I have nerve damage in my lower back, and this simple concept has helped all of us lead more functional lives.



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17 Oct 2011, 6:01 pm

Physical pain, lots of chest, stomach, and shoulder/ arm pain. I know nothing is going to take the pain away but I've got nothing to do, and nothing to loose, I just want experiments I can focus on, on my self.


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17 Oct 2011, 6:18 pm

Why exactly are you in pain?

You could always find out why exactly you are in pain so you can undergo appropriate medical treatment.

If you have already done all that, try pain relieving drugs, they relieve pain...



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17 Oct 2011, 6:25 pm

Long distance bike riding is great for me. After an hour on the bike everything relaxes and stretches into place.

Also yoga is great. I don't buy into the chakras or chi or any of that, but stretching my body every day for at least 15 minutes does wonders...and it's f'ing hard to hold those poses.



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17 Oct 2011, 6:26 pm

Experiments for what purpose? To what end?

This sounds more like a cry for help than a real attempt to learn anything in particular.

The cry, however, is way too ambiguous for me to make sense of. I get that you're in pain, but very little else.

Ever heard of "TMI?" Well, this is "TLI."

"Too little information."

Sorry, can't help much with as little understanding as I have of your situation. :shrug:


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17 Oct 2011, 7:45 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Experiments for what purpose? To what end?


I think he answered here.

NomadicAssassin wrote:
Physical pain, lots of chest, stomach, and shoulder/ arm pain. I know nothing is going to take the pain away but I've got nothing to do, and nothing to loose, I just want experiments I can focus on, on my self.


As for suggestions... hmm... not sure. How are you as far as finances? I.e., would suggestions which would cost money be helpful or does it need to be free/low-cost?

I just had a totally random idea. Making your own homemade mashed potatoes, i.e., mashing it up with a fork, is a great deal of work and quite distracting. It would take a huge amount of time, but, hell, you could make enough mashed potatoes for the neighborhood. ;)

Another thing which could distract you somewhat would be to get hot peppers and eat them. Pain on the tongue, true, but definitely could distract from pains elsewhere.

I also wonder whether some training in neurofeedback might not be helpful to you somehow... Perhaps a way to work to control the pain if this is something chronic and untreatable.


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17 Oct 2011, 10:15 pm

I like Sophists gist. There are times when my emotional pain is low enough that I can get involved with selfless service of some kind. Obviously with our condition that can be problematic. But where there's a will there's a way. It sounds like you're very much in a survival state and probably need to focus on yourself mostly. But when there is a window of opportunity, helping someone else, in any small way, can be a great balm for the soul.

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17 Oct 2011, 10:16 pm

I suppose you could look at it as a cry for help but I don't know what help I want? My reasoning behind this post is, I'm in a great deal of pain I felt probably the worst pain I can feel physically, i sit at home all day because I have spells where I pass out randomly, My life kind of sucks right now, Im very interested in how far the human body will go in the field of experimentation, so I was looking for ideas of experiments I could perform.

As for TLI, I am an odd case both mentally and physically every doctor I see has said that at some point, I get random things that happen to me alot, blame it on whatever you want, either way I get them. My deep days when I was in my depression took something away from me something I valued very much I find it hard to care and or face reality as happily as everyone prescieves it to be, the world is cruel I know many do not believe this but I can not see any thing good, when I do go out side rarely but when I do, I alway think about what can happen I'm very logical, miracles are mear coincodeses of a random part in time, religion is unforgiving to me, I have a loving family and a great family, and yet I have nothing to loose be cause in the end each day we grow closer and closer to the end of our life span, mankind is unforgiving you either fit in with the crowd or you are left to either sink or swim sometimes you simply can't swim. This is how I perceive life my world it not pretty.


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17 Oct 2011, 10:26 pm

thats like "Sick: Bob Flannagan"

He lived with cystic fibrosis ... one of the most painful human dysfunctions known ever.
Nobody lived past their teens
Bob learned to associate the pain with pleasure
and lived into is 30s/40s?
outlived them all by accepting it


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Flanagan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7JwWMB5kc

no links. you do it the hard way. nsfw



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17 Oct 2011, 10:26 pm

Sophist wrote:
MrXxx wrote:
Experiments for what purpose? To what end?


I think he answered here.

NomadicAssassin wrote:
Physical pain, lots of chest, stomach, and shoulder/ arm pain. I know nothing is going to take the pain away but I've got nothing to do, and nothing to loose, I just want experiments I can focus on, on my self.


Sorry. If that an answer, my AS is definitely interfering with understanding it as one. As with many other things said, I don't understand.

Reading the OP's last post though, is revealing enough to understand one thing clearly enough. Depression, sadly, is not something I'm much good at helping with. That said, my apologies to the OP. I'd like to help, but if I did, I'd more likely muck things up even more for you.

I hope you can get what you need from other kind posters. Sorry you're feeling as you are. I'm going to leave you in more (I hope) capable hands. Good luck. Hope you feel better soon.


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17 Oct 2011, 10:46 pm

A basic framework for experiments would be either denial of 'necessary' things or binging of 'necessary' things.. so.. sleep for a long time.. don't sleep.. don't eat, eat a lot, etc. etc. Although keep in mind that binging is more likely to be fatal than deprivation.. deprivation tends to take a while, binging must by definition be done quickly and so it is easier to go past your limit.

I've tried sleep deprivation and lasted about 36 hours.. I started hearing 'celebrity catchphrases' over and over and I couldn't figure out why I was trying.

Food deprivation, after about 36-48? hours again I was so hungry that I couldn't take it anymore. I've never tried water deprivation, I can't convince myself I don't need at least a little regularly.

I've tried air deprivation but that's a tough one. I've never gone far enough to faint.. but maybe I never would, if I really tried.

Ultimately nobody needs anything, although I suspect that I need at least something Earthly on a regular basis to keep me anchored to the Earth. I must still like the Earth on some level because I'm still here.. but less so all the time :)

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