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07 Oct 2011, 10:47 am

This is frustrating.

I feel that the thoughts are in my head to have conversations with people.

However, I can not convert those thoughts into spoken words quickly enough. I have to make an effort to get the words out.

I am amazed at how nts can speak so easily and seemingly without effort.

Does anyone have any ideas how to make speaking easier?



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07 Oct 2011, 11:53 am

practice?
try to have conversations with people at home more(if there is anybody) or even small exchanges with shopkeepers etc. perhaps even say your thoughts out loud when you're alone. I think when we spend too much time internally (as in alone and with most of our thoughts being kept inside our head) then it becomes more difficult to translate thoughts to an external expression

i don't know if this is helpful but personally i find being able to talk with easy flow takes a bit of a 'warm up'



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07 Oct 2011, 12:18 pm

OneStepBeyond wrote:
practice?
try to have conversations with people at home more(if there is anybody) or even small exchanges with shopkeepers etc. perhaps even say your thoughts out loud when you're alone. I think when we spend too much time internally (as in alone and with most of our thoughts being kept inside our head) then it becomes more difficult to translate thoughts to an external expression

i don't know if this is helpful but personally i find being able to talk with easy flow takes a bit of a 'warm up'


Actually, I do practice,

I wanted to find out if anyone came up with some type of helper.



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07 Oct 2011, 2:25 pm

I stutter a bit....when I'm trying to explain things to someone, it takes me a while to get the words out. If I think about what I'm going to say beforehand, it helps a lot. :D



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07 Oct 2011, 2:30 pm

I tend to have a broad range, ie. I can be perfectly clear or be completely unable to speak, depending on how much I'm spreading myself out. I've also noticed that I had to avoid certain types of conversation or social angles simply because while on some avenues I can speak clearly, others I can stutter indefinitely or mix my words incoherently ad infinitum and it won't come out - I'll just look crazy.

It's only gotten so much better. I tend to still play it safe and speak along the lines that I know I can get out while knowing that if I feel a lot of downward pressure telling me not to say something - I can typically suspect that its my mind saying I'd never spit it out right.

Not sure if it will ever really go away or fully get better, but it is frustrating in that it does limit my social scope, at least moreso with people I don't really know. It could just be part anxiety, not really sure how large a part that plays though.


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07 Oct 2011, 2:45 pm

Just do it. For me, the "helper" was already somewhat ingrained in my personality. The more I told myself I didn't care what anyone thought of me, the less I really did care. Over time, a lot of trial and error, developing the ability to care not what anyone thought, I got better at it.

It's a double-edged sword though. Now nobody thinks I have any problems worthy of helping me overcome. Fake it 'til you make it, for me as become, "fake it 'til everyone thinks you've 'made it,' though nothing behind the scenes is really any better than it ever was, and now I may be screwed for life." :roll:


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07 Oct 2011, 3:59 pm

KevinLA wrote:
Does anyone have any ideas how to make speaking easier?


Not dramatically, but I have noticed that the more times I tell a story, the clearer and more concise it becomes. In fact, writing it out seems to help the most, whereas speaking it is a little less helpful, and rehearsing it in my head a bit less than that. But they all are much better than nothing. The first time I try to explain an unrehearsed thought (even a relatively simple one) what comes out of my mouth is usually incomprehensible (even to me).

As for speeding up the conversion of real-time thoughts into speech: I have no help. :shrug:



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07 Oct 2011, 4:08 pm

KevinLA wrote:
This is frustrating.

I feel that the thoughts are in my head to have conversations with people.

However, I can not convert those thoughts into spoken words quickly enough. I have to make an effort to get the words out.

I am amazed at how nts can speak so easily and seemingly without effort.

Does anyone have any ideas how to make speaking easier?


Um, yes, I have this trouble but it's just a tad different to your's. I lack confidence in speaking out words. When I'm in a group, lots and lots of appropriate things to say all come rushing into my head that are compatible with what the group of people is talking about, but I don't have the confidence to speak up, so I stay quiet. So, to most people, I look blank and stupid from the outside, but I'm full of things to say on the inside.


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07 Oct 2011, 5:27 pm

http://youtu.be/IuN1iPiWP7o

Above is a link to a news video on selective mutism, a social anxiety disorder which I had as a child and my son with classic autism had. My son has been on fluoxetine (Prozac) for three years, and it has worked great. It has a 76% effectiveness rate in treating selective mutism and is also used for social anxiety disorder. Prozac is an SSRI anti-depressant.

I am also on Prozac, and it helps with my anxiet and improves my mood, too.

With selective mutism, the person can talk, but in public situations, he or she becomes so anxious that he or she basically shuts down and appears mute. Some people, like my son, have both a speech disorder and selective mutism. Others have perfectly normal speech when they are not anxious.

I now longer have the disorder, but public speaking is still very hard for me unless I take something for anxiety beforehand--my voice shakes and my mind goes blank.


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17 Oct 2011, 1:23 am

MrXxx wrote:
Just do it. For me, the "helper" was already somewhat ingrained in my personality. The more I told myself I didn't care what anyone thought of me, the less I really did care. Over time, a lot of trial and error, developing the ability to care not what anyone thought, I got better at it.

It's a double-edged sword though. Now nobody thinks I have any problems worthy of helping me overcome. Fake it 'til you make it, for me as become, "fake it 'til everyone thinks you've 'made it,' though nothing behind the scenes is really any better than it ever was, and now I may be screwed for life." :roll:


That may be the key.