Do all neurological conditions involve some Autistic traits?

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02 Nov 2011, 5:09 pm

I've met a lot of people with disabilities other than Autism in my life, and I've noticed that they've all got a few visible Autistic traits, even though they're not Autistic. It seems that all neurological conditions affect the way the person socially interacts, even if it's not the same as how an Autistic person would interact. My cousin had learning difficulties, but she always had better social skills than me, but she still struggled in some ways. When she was a teenager, she made friends with girls who took advantage of her, and secretly laughed at her behind her back, and she never realised that until she got to about 18 (she doesn't see them now). But now she's with a control-freak so I'm ''not allowed'' to see her any more, ever. But my auntie said that when she was little, she was always in a world of her own, and never wanted to play with other children, and when she was at birthday parties she never used to want to participate in party games, and when she did she always played them wrong and never seemed to know what she was doing, whereas the other children already knew how to play party games.

Also I've met a girl with Fragile-X, and she hated loud noises and she had trouble mixing. I've also got a friend with Soto's Syndrome. I don't quite know much about that, but I know she doesn't have many friends, and she even went to a special school. And I knew somebody with Dyspraxia, and she did seem more mainstream than me, and was better at making friends, but sometimes she blabbed out offensive things without realising, although she didn't mean to be nasty. And she always made faces when she was speaking. And I have a friend with ADHD, and he got severely bullied when he was at school and he says he always felt a little different. He also likes strict routine. When he was little he used to always walk around with his fingers in his ears, but I think he doesn't have sensory issues now as an adult. And there are others who I've met with all sorts of different neurological disabilities who had some sort of issues with social interaction, or sensory issues, or anxieties, or other little things what are common in Autistics. I just thought it's quite interesting to know how others with other neurological conditions can relate to me (which is why I have known a lot of people with other neurological conditions, other than Autism).


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02 Nov 2011, 5:19 pm

First, neither Fragile-X or Soto's syndrome are neurological disorders. They both have effects on the brain, but they are not neurological disorders in themselves. Secondly, if someone is neurologically different from someone else they will find it harder to connect, as they are different, so there is some basis to your claim. This doesn't make them autistic, it just means there social aspect will probably suffer.



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02 Nov 2011, 5:21 pm

What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:36 pm

Joe90 wrote:
What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


A neurological condition is one that is based within the brain. Fragile-X Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and Soto's Syndrome all effect the entire body.

I though the word "neurotypical" was coined by aspies to refer to non-autistic people, but I may be mistaken.



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02 Nov 2011, 5:44 pm

I have a hard time with transitioning between things. It is definitely weird and autism like. It is ADHD and no surprise it is executive dysfunctioning. I have an altered/ poor sense of time. To get motivated in anything I do, I must use a different approach because it doesn't come from within myself. Once I'm in a certain rut, I'm in a certain rut, and I'm stuck there and I have to force myself out of it, otherwise it's like you're drugged and unmotivated/stuck .....................



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02 Nov 2011, 5:47 pm

Ganondox wrote:
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What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


A neurological condition is one that is based within the brain. Fragile-X Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and Soto's Syndrome all effect the entire body.

I though the word "neurotypical" was coined by aspies to refer to non-autistic people, but I may be mistaken.


I just thought all conditions what affect behaviour and learning was called ''neurodiversity''.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:49 pm

Yes. Dyselxia, Bipolar, ADHD, Auditory processing disorder, Irlens syndrome, Dyspraxia, ect all have similarities to autism symptoms. Other conditions can have symptoms too if the brain is affected. Hyper and hypothrodism, depression, anxiety...etc. Even some epilepsy. Look at simple partial seizures - looks an awful lot like autistic stimming, cept it's really hard to control, really hard.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:50 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


A neurological condition is one that is based within the brain. Fragile-X Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and Soto's Syndrome all effect the entire body.

I though the word "neurotypical" was coined by aspies to refer to non-autistic people, but I may be mistaken.


That is correct. It was originally coined by the Autistic community, to refer to non-Autistics, however it is a misnomer. "Neurotypical" carries obvious connotations of possessing typical neuro functioning. Clearly people with Downs Syndrome do not possess typical neuro functioning, and neither do Schizophrenics, or many others.

I find it to be quite the misused term.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:53 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


A neurological condition is one that is based within the brain. Fragile-X Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and Soto's Syndrome all effect the entire body.

I though the word "neurotypical" was coined by aspies to refer to non-autistic people, but I may be mistaken.


That is correct. It was originally coined by the Autistic community, to refer to non-Autistics, however it is a misnomer. "Neurotypical" carries obvious connotations of possessing typical neuro functioning. Clearly people with Downs Syndrome do not possess typical neuro functioning, and neither do Schizophrenics, or many others.

I find it to be quite the misused term.


Well we just say ''Aspies and NTs'' a lot on these forums because I think we just compare ourselves with NTs a lot. It's a quicker way rather than keep saying ''Aspies, NTs, and people with other conditions'' all the time, simply because this is an Autism board. But sometimes other conditions get brought up, and I think it can sometimes be interesting once you look into it, because there are actually so many different types. Knowing this makes me feel more accepting of myself, because I know there are many diversities out there, other than just AS and Autism.


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02 Nov 2011, 5:53 pm

MrXxx wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
What is a neurological condition then?

Let me get it straight, everybody are neurotypicals except the 1 percent who have Autism? So even people with Mental Retardation, Down's Syndrome, and other conditions like that are neurotypicals aswell? I always thought neurotypical meant somebody born without a disability affecting the brain and the behaviour and learning of the person throughout life.


A neurological condition is one that is based within the brain. Fragile-X Syndrome, Down Syndrome, and Soto's Syndrome all effect the entire body.

I though the word "neurotypical" was coined by aspies to refer to non-autistic people, but I may be mistaken.


That is correct. It was originally coined by the Autistic community, to refer to non-Autistics, however it is a misnomer. "Neurotypical" carries obvious connotations of possessing typical neuro functioning. Clearly people with Downs Syndrome do not possess typical neuro functioning, and neither do Schizophrenics, or many others.

I find it to be quite the misused term.


It has been picked up by the ADHD community which is at times hard to believe because in some ways they are more socially capable than us, and in other ways of functioning too. But maybe I'm being functioning elitists there.


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