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30 Nov 2011, 5:23 am

"You're not autistic, you only have Asperger's Syndrome. That's just mild social awkwardness not a real disability like autism."



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30 Nov 2011, 5:24 am

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Well I got one for depression...

'everyone gets depressed so get over it'.......uhh I am pretty sure not everyone has clinical depression.


It seems like most of the cases are actually nothing more than the Neurotypical drama. One of the worst examples is, "...I, like, literally died!"



No Depression is actually a pretty serious mental illness.......so most cases of clinical depression are actually depression. Yes sometimes people claim to be depressed when all they are experiancing is a normal sad mood because of something that happened and they probably do feel depressed but feeling depressed as a natural reaction to something, is not the same thing as having Depression.

I have Depression, and I don't see it as neurotypical drama, but I can add this to the collection of annoying stereotypes about mental disorders.


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30 Nov 2011, 5:29 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Well I got one for depression...

'everyone gets depressed so get over it'.......uhh I am pretty sure not everyone has clinical depression.


It seems like most of the cases are actually nothing more than the Neurotypical drama. One of the worst examples is, "...I, like, literally died!"



No Depression is actually a pretty serious mental illness.......so most cases of clinical depression are actually depression. Yes sometimes people claim to be depressed when all they are experiancing is a normal sad mood because of something that happened and they probably do feel depressed but feeling depressed as a natural reaction to something, is not the same thing as having Depression.

I have Depression, and I don't see it as neurotypical drama, but I can add this to the collection of annoying stereotypes about mental disorders.


I apologize for the unfortunate implications, but what I meant was what happens when excited, obviously normal teenagers say, "I'm so depressed," following a particularly mundane event such as another student having a tardy. I know real depression exists and has a medical basis, but what I meant is the figurative depression.



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30 Nov 2011, 5:32 am

kevinjh wrote:
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Well I got one for depression...

'everyone gets depressed so get over it'.......uhh I am pretty sure not everyone has clinical depression.


It seems like most of the cases are actually nothing more than the Neurotypical drama. One of the worst examples is, "...I, like, literally died!"



No Depression is actually a pretty serious mental illness.......so most cases of clinical depression are actually depression. Yes sometimes people claim to be depressed when all they are experiancing is a normal sad mood because of something that happened and they probably do feel depressed but feeling depressed as a natural reaction to something, is not the same thing as having Depression.

I have Depression, and I don't see it as neurotypical drama, but I can add this to the collection of annoying stereotypes about mental disorders.


I apologize for the unfortunate implications, but what I meant was what happens when excited, obviously normal teenagers say, "I'm so depressed," following a particularly mundane event such as another student having a tardy. I know real depression exists and has a medical basis, but what I meant is the figurative depression.


Well yes that does happen, however that assumption was made about me when I was a teen......and I attemted suicide, and then people still did not seem to take it very seriously and I am still just as depressed if not more depressed than I was then.

So I see your point, but still one has to be careful before making too many assumptions.....because sometimes when someone mentions being depressed they might actually be depressed regardless of their age.


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30 Nov 2011, 5:34 am

Another annoying misconception: "Why are you so worried about saying things correctly?"

There is a delay between hearing the information and responding to it. That delay happens to be the time when I consider the cues I should probably use, the intonation, the attitude of the gestures, and if I should attempt to make eye contact. This is very obvious when I am being called and automatically make a noise like, "Hm?" followed by a second or two of silence before listening. I suppose I also use too many words that adolescents do not usually use, and that adds to the impression of being worried about being precise.



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30 Nov 2011, 5:45 am

Sweetleaf wrote:
kevinjh wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
kevinjh wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I got one for depression...

'everyone gets depressed so get over it'.......uhh I am pretty sure not everyone has clinical depression.


It seems like most of the cases are actually nothing more than the Neurotypical drama. One of the worst examples is, "...I, like, literally died!"



No Depression is actually a pretty serious mental illness.......so most cases of clinical depression are actually depression. Yes sometimes people claim to be depressed when all they are experiancing is a normal sad mood because of something that happened and they probably do feel depressed but feeling depressed as a natural reaction to something, is not the same thing as having Depression.

I have Depression, and I don't see it as neurotypical drama, but I can add this to the collection of annoying stereotypes about mental disorders.


I apologize for the unfortunate implications, but what I meant was what happens when excited, obviously normal teenagers say, "I'm so depressed," following a particularly mundane event such as another student having a tardy. I know real depression exists and has a medical basis, but what I meant is the figurative depression.


Well yes that does happen, however that assumption was made about me when I was a teen......and I attemted suicide, and then people still did not seem to take it very seriously and I am still just as depressed if not more depressed than I was then.

So I see your point, but still one has to be careful before making too many assumptions.....because sometimes when someone mentions being depressed they might actually be depressed regardless of their age.


It would be easy to see that the students in question are not depressed. It only takes about 15 seconds to get them having intense conversation about what someone posted on FaceBook, what was done over the week-end, how much fun was had lately, and practically everything that contraindicates depression in any sense but the new sense.



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30 Nov 2011, 5:52 am

kevinjh wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
kevinjh wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
kevinjh wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
Well I got one for depression...

'everyone gets depressed so get over it'.......uhh I am pretty sure not everyone has clinical depression.


It seems like most of the cases are actually nothing more than the Neurotypical drama. One of the worst examples is, "...I, like, literally died!"



No Depression is actually a pretty serious mental illness.......so most cases of clinical depression are actually depression. Yes sometimes people claim to be depressed when all they are experiancing is a normal sad mood because of something that happened and they probably do feel depressed but feeling depressed as a natural reaction to something, is not the same thing as having Depression.

I have Depression, and I don't see it as neurotypical drama, but I can add this to the collection of annoying stereotypes about mental disorders.


I apologize for the unfortunate implications, but what I meant was what happens when excited, obviously normal teenagers say, "I'm so depressed," following a particularly mundane event such as another student having a tardy. I know real depression exists and has a medical basis, but what I meant is the figurative depression.


Well yes that does happen, however that assumption was made about me when I was a teen......and I attemted suicide, and then people still did not seem to take it very seriously and I am still just as depressed if not more depressed than I was then.

So I see your point, but still one has to be careful before making too many assumptions.....because sometimes when someone mentions being depressed they might actually be depressed regardless of their age.


It would be easy to see that the students in question are not depressed. It only takes about 15 seconds to get them having intense conversation about what someone posted on FaceBook, what was done over the week-end, how much fun was had lately, and practically everything that contraindicates depression in any sense but the new sense.


Well as I said I know what you describe happens, I am just pointing out its not always the case.......also depressed people sometimes do things they enjoy to get their mind off the depression so if a depressed person posts on face book that they had a good time over the weeked that does not prove they aren't depressed. And an even worse case senerio is when a depressed person puts on a 'happy' front because they are thinking about suicide and don't want anyone to worry so they act like they are doing ok, I know because that is exactly what I did.


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30 Nov 2011, 6:08 am

Ashuahhe wrote:
Could you elaborate? Do you mean speak for myself in that about it making my life easier, or that the stereotype isn't ridiculous..


The stereotype of what you mentioned is a common occurrence and presentation among those with an ASD. It might not be trains, but mechanical objects are one of the most common interests, most tend to live with their parents or in government housing, and most are asocial to some extent (this isn't the same as devoid of socialization, just a lot less of a need for it, to various extents).

You might be entirely different to that, but it's still common, so it's not a myth.



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30 Nov 2011, 6:20 am

Now a fact about those on the spectrum that I find somewhat comforting: "Why do so many of you look so young?"

First response: There are only a few at school, why ask that?
Second response: I suppose 2/5ths of the population on the spectrum looking very young is considered many.



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30 Nov 2011, 6:44 am

It's annoying when I write threads about worrying about everyone looking at me then I get assumptions from other posters that I stim and look skanky and dress in an unusual way. That annoys because why would I be making a thread explaining how much I worry about standing out and yet I flap my hands, stink of BO, and wear ''jack-ups''? It's because I DON'T do all those things is why I keep worrying and going on about people looking!


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30 Nov 2011, 7:02 am

Tuttle wrote:
"You're not autistic, you only have Asperger's Syndrome. That's just mild social awkwardness not a real disability like autism."


^^^

I was going to say something similar. About assumptions that being diagnosed with AS is a mild thing, and thus isn't a serious condition, nor sufficiently impairing to really be considered a disability. I actually dislike AS as a diagnosis simply because people seem to assume AS = mild, when all it really means is AS = no known speech delay.



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30 Nov 2011, 7:32 am

That just because I can do something one day/time does not mean that I can always function at that level.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:13 am

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It might not be trains, but mechanical objects are one of the most common interests, most tend to live with their parents or in government housing, and most are asocial to some extent (this isn't the same as devoid of socialization, just a lot less of a need for it, to various extents).


What is the source of this information? And please don't say "my experience" because anecdata =/= evidence.

And what percentage of NTs are interested in mechanical objects? Or live with their parents or in government housing? Or are asocial to some extent?



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30 Nov 2011, 8:16 am

MrXxx wrote:
"You have too many interests."

"You just looked me right in the eyes."

"Your speech isn't mechanical."

"You use gestures."

And many others. They ALL annoy the hell out of me.

I'm fifty one for crying out loud. These idiots have no clue what HELL I went trough to develop these skills. I didn't have any of them when I was a kid.

That's the most annoying aspect of Autism ignorance. The complete lack of awareness that we can learn to fake everything.

Yeah thats what I don't like. people don't accept I have anything wrong with me, because They can't accept that I am not alltogether myself with them.
As a child I struggled, There was very obviously somthing wrong with me, But you learn to hide most things.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:16 am

MrXxx wrote:
"You have too many interests."

"You just looked me right in the eyes."

"Your speech isn't mechanical."

"You use gestures."

And many others. They ALL annoy the hell out of me.

I'm fifty one for crying out loud. These idiots have no clue what HELL I went trough to develop these skills. I didn't have any of them when I was a kid.

That's the most annoying aspect of Autism ignorance. The complete lack of awareness that we can learn to fake everything.

Yeah thats what I don't like. people don't accept I have anything wrong with me, because They can't accept that I am not alltogether myself with them.
As a child I struggled, There was very obviously somthing wrong with me, But you learn to hide most things.



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30 Nov 2011, 8:22 am

"But you can talk."


Seriously? -__-