Deviations in diagnostic patterns around the world.

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11 Dec 2011, 7:33 pm

I'm curious about the differences between Aspies on WP.

I've read that in Europe AS is widely diagnosed in people who have very little social impairments, even though the diagnostic criteria is basically the same.

I haven't been able to find A LOT of info on this but I've seen the idea supported and confirmed by some people on WP in the past.

Maybe some European Aspies here coudl describe how they feel they are different than the American "portarit" of AS?

It's said that American Aspies who are diagnosed are usually wallflower types.

Also curious about Aspies from other places.

Japanese Aspies? How do you feel that AS is viewed or dignosed differently in Japan?



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11 Dec 2011, 7:52 pm

Also what is the situation in "the rest of the world". Is AS diagnosed at all?



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11 Dec 2011, 8:20 pm

I imagine that in Japan AS would be under diagnosed and people who did have it wouldn't get a lot of help, because the japanese like to keep mental health related problems behind closed doors. If anything it should be becoming more relevant in Japan due to ppl with AS and mental illnesses becoming Hikikomori. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori. In France they consider Autism and ADHD as childhood forms of psychosis. I'm in Canada and it's still not getting diagnosed properly in Adults yet. I had to jump through hoops for my DX. Actually in China I don't think they diagnose it at all.



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11 Dec 2011, 10:32 pm

I don't know. I can think of a few diagnosed AS people on WP and not from the US who seem pretty socially adept. I just figured their impairments were more behavioral than social, although it's hard to imagine how those things are impairing in reality. I can see how sensory issues are an impairment of course.


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11 Dec 2011, 11:46 pm

Angel_ryan wrote:
I imagine that in Japan AS would be under diagnosed and people who did have it wouldn't get a lot of help, because the japanese like to keep mental health related problems behind closed doors. If anything it should be becoming more relevant in Japan due to ppl with AS and mental illnesses becoming Hikikomori. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori In France they consider Autism and ADHD as childhood forms of psychosis. I'm in Canada and it's still not getting diagnosed properly in Adults yet. I had to jump through hoops for my DX. Actually in China I don't think they diagnose it at all.


In France, there's also the rather inhumane "packing" therapy:

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... andal.html



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12 Dec 2011, 12:00 am

I would say that Australia is the same as US and England. Significant social impairments.


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12 Dec 2011, 12:25 am

In France psychoanalysis (Freudian stuff) is still popular/dominant. I remember someone from there on this board who had a diagnosis of "trio of psychopathies," which isn't an ICD or DSM diagnosis. So. I'd guess there are a lot of undiagnosed or improperly ("un-usefully"?) diagnosed autistics there. Given how psychoanalysis works (according to Wikipedia) if you have a neurological condition you will get stuck in a loop of being accused of "psychological resistance" to therapy. Sounds like Hell on Earth.



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12 Dec 2011, 5:11 am

EXPECIALLY wrote:
I'm curious about the differences between Aspies on WP.

I've read that in Europe AS is widely diagnosed in people who have very little social impairments, even though the diagnostic criteria is basically the same.

I'm curious too, if people on WP think the same about me. I think my biggest issues lie at social impairment, though.

Maybe being diagnosed with PDD-NOS (as I am) isn't the same as being DX'd with AS, so literally your statement doesn't apply to me, although there is an indication that in the USA AS is overdiagnosed at the expense of PDD-NOS, which might have an impact on your question.

Personally, I think in Hungary the attitude towards any kind of mental illnesses or disorders is similar to that of Japanese peoples', only perhaps to a lesser extent. One other difference might be the notorious ignorance and prejudice that our people have (or so I perceive it).

EXPECIALLY wrote:
I haven't been able to find A LOT of info on this but I've seen the idea supported and confirmed by some people on WP in the past.

Maybe some European Aspies here coudl describe how they feel they are different than the American "portarit" of AS?

I think it depends more on the individual's traits and their environment, including cultural differences. I, for one, don't think I feel different.

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It's said that American Aspies who are diagnosed are usually wallflower types.

I don't see any difference in this respect.