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07 Jun 2012, 7:25 pm

I've seen a lot of race propaganda such as " The white race is going extinct" and also "Black americans are going extinct because of race mixing".
I don't follow that logic, but if it were true, wouldn't aspies be going extinct?

I mean we are less than 1% of the population and EXTREME minority. Also a staggering statistic is that 80% of aspies never get married or have children. Is that a fair burden to put on the other 20%

I know you may think this is silly, but I'm an aspie and I don't wanna see my neurology go extinct!

Aspies please start having kids!! ! the world needs aspie kids!! !!



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07 Jun 2012, 7:28 pm

This is improbable because most aspies are born to nt parents or at lest one nt parent.



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07 Jun 2012, 7:30 pm

I do not know whether to laugh or cry at this post.
Well, since Asperger's people are autistic, and autism is being dxd even more often, I doubt there is any danger of "extinction"
And Aspies are neither a race or an ethnic group, they are people who share some traits that seperate them from NTs. Some of which can qualify as disabilities. Speaking from my past, if Autism vanished, that would be a good thing.

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07 Jun 2012, 8:43 pm

Is that statistic - that 80% of us don't get married or have kids - right? I didn't know.



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07 Jun 2012, 9:30 pm

Considering that AS is a fairly new diagnosis, the diagnoses tend to go to children, and the diagnosis trends are expanding to less severe cases, I say the statistics aren't quite accurate.


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07 Jun 2012, 9:32 pm

Matt62 wrote:
I do not know whether to laugh or cry at this post.
Well, since Asperger's people are autistic, and autism is being dxd even more often, I doubt there is any danger of "extinction"
And Aspies are neither a race or an ethnic group, they are people who share some traits that seperate them from NTs. Some of which can qualify as disabilities. Speaking from my past, if Autism vanished, that would be a good thing.

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You personal expience doesn't speak for everyone, and as I'm prodiversity in all things I say it will most definately be a bad thing. Might as well say it would be a good thing for all of humanity to go extinct.


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07 Jun 2012, 10:12 pm

Ganondox wrote:
Matt62 wrote:
I do not know whether to laugh or cry at this post.
Well, since Asperger's people are autistic, and autism is being dxd even more often, I doubt there is any danger of "extinction"
And Aspies are neither a race or an ethnic group, they are people who share some traits that seperate them from NTs. Some of which can qualify as disabilities. Speaking from my past, if Autism vanished, that would be a good thing.

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You personal expience doesn't speak for everyone, and as I'm prodiversity in all things I say it will most definately be a bad thing. Might as well say it would be a good thing for all of humanity to go extinct.


Rember all you see is from were you are standing It might be a good thing if humanity went extict if you are certan animals. Autism in its most disabling form vs middle of the road aspie??



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07 Jun 2012, 11:27 pm

Aspies from 100 years ago weren't known as aspies then, and didn't have to carry an emotional burden on what kind of car they drove or what school they went to, they could rely on their talents to attract their partners to a greater degree without the 'advantages' of modern life. Being free from that herd mentality they were less likely to die in ways that large groups are wiped out at once. Most likely BECAUSE there were no computers everywhere they had to finely hone their acting skills since they were pretty much F2F all the time except when going to the bathroom.

Well consider this; if we were going extinct the birth rate in Santa Clara county CA would be just a blip on the radar. According to Wiki's article on AS, Diagnoses of spectrum disorders in the Silicon Valley are rather high for the geographical area as a whole, like a 'cancer cluster' near power lines or chemical factories, of a sense. But think about it, how would these new diagnoses come about if there wasn't any pairing off going on? So I guess as long as there are trophy wives to be had our 'species' will continue onward a little further into the future


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07 Jun 2012, 11:32 pm

I don't see anything wrong with finding a cure for autism. You can still be neurotypical and have quirks, think differently and be different. It wouldn't be so bad with eliminating some of the bad things that come along with autism.

I don't know what causes autism but my closest belief at least for Asperger's Syndrome is that it's a mixture of certain genes and traits that run in your family. I really don't think Asperger's Syndrome will ever be fully cured anyway.



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07 Jun 2012, 11:57 pm

Nope, they are not. There seems to be more than there have been in the past, but that is because there seems to be. There have probably been thousands through out history but now that it's more well known, people who have been undiagnosed for their whole lives are finding out what AS is and then they think, "That... sounds like... ME!"



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08 Jun 2012, 12:16 am

Does the question make sense? We are not a species, so we can't go "extinct".



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08 Jun 2012, 2:37 am

Actually it seems like we are on the rise regardless of low marriage rates or not. I am one of the many Aspies living in Silicon Valley although I was not born in Silicon Valley rather near it, Stockton, California and grew up mostly in Clovis and Fresno I guess there could be somewhat of a correlation to that geographical area. I sure do like it in Silicon Valley it is a nerds paradise if not an aspie paradise. All the science centers and electronics corporations, great schools, and a decent location near the bay not to mention the diversity of the population and higher tolerant people as opposed lets say some one horse town in the midwest.


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08 Jun 2012, 4:32 am

enrico_dandolo wrote:
Does the question make sense? We are not a species, so we can't go "extinct".

The term "extinction" is normally applied to a species, true enough, but it may also be applied to any taxon. I think we can be fairly described as a taxon.

Anyway, we know what the OP means - are Aspies going to die out?

It's quite worrying that the UK gov is shutting down the public sector, which is bound to throw loads of Aspies out into the cruel world, and some of us will perish. :(

But I don't think we will die out. I think we're like terrorists........they could wipe us all out, but more would be created to take our places.

Maybe it's the NTs that are in danger? I don't fancy the chances of any group in which the man has to pretend that he loves his wife's choice of clothes, meals etc.....I mean he's only got to get drunk once and let on what he really thinks, and there's not going to be much procreation after that, is there?

We also have great potentialstrength in solidarity. The world wouldn't know what had hit it if we called a geek strike. I doubt that water would still come out of the taps without nerdy Aspie geeks.



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08 Jun 2012, 7:19 am

No, AS isn't going to die out--we're the result of recessive genes which are beneficial in small amounts. Autism genes are partly responsible for human diversity--creative thinkers, artists, scientists, nerds in general. Only the extreme expression is called "autism". We're the tip of the iceberg; there are ten times as many who have autistic traits but no disability. Supporting people with a disability caused by autism is the "price" that society pays for having those autism genes in the general population. Basically: Autism in the human population is a beneficial trait, and as such, will not die out.


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08 Jun 2012, 1:15 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
Maybe it's the NTs that are in danger? I don't fancy the chances of any group in which the man has to pretend that he loves his wife's choice of clothes, meals etc.....I mean he's only got to get drunk once and let on what he really thinks, and there's not going to be much procreation after that, is there?

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Since Asperger's syndrome is present in a decent number of people, and since it is linked with certain genes, the only possible explanation is that, from an evolutionary point of view, it is not meaningful.



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08 Jun 2012, 1:34 pm

You could still have the benefits of being an independent thinker, if you left the spectrum. If I did not have sensory issues, emotional immaturity, relationship difficulties I would be better off. I do not think my above average IQ comes from having an ASD. Maybe my concentration, but I really have failed to see all that much benefit.
Remember that a lot of Asperger's/HFA will always work BELOW what they are capable of, and/or require some kind of support. With the political climate in the USA alone, that puts you in serious jeopardy!
Again having an ASD is not a club, an ethinic group, nor a race, nor a species. That is faulty reasoning. I am not a Crohnie either, though I have IBD. That certainly should be cured!
For those wo do not have serious impairments, that is fine for you, but there are a great many of us not actually happy to be on the Spectrum.

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