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18 Sep 2011, 4:22 pm

Hello everyone,

Have any of you been patronized at work or around your family and friends?

This is my new blog post about being patronized and how to handle it. Feel free to leave a comment if you would like.

http://dwarren57.wordpress.com/2011/09/ ... -yourself/


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18 Sep 2011, 4:33 pm

d057 wrote:
Hello everyone,

Have any of you been patronized at work or around your family and friends?

This is my new blog post about being patronized and how to handle it. Feel free to leave a comment if you would like.

http://dwarren57.wordpress.com/2011/09/ ... -yourself/


Reading it :)



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18 Sep 2011, 6:47 pm

I have noticed when being patronized in this manner what the NT is really trying to say is, "I'm not going to stand up for you...that is reserved for people I like."

"Oh you can defend yourself" which translates to, "I don't like you really."

It is hard to have true friends.



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18 Sep 2011, 7:59 pm

NT: "You should really stand up for yourself more."
Me: "And why should you be worrying about that? What if I don't care about people who try to 'put me in my place'? I think you would rather be worried about your social status. I don't give a damn about mine."


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18 Sep 2011, 8:07 pm

MakaylaTheAspie wrote:
NT: "You should really stand up for yourself more."
Me: "And why should you be worrying about that? What if I don't care about people who try to 'put me in my place'? I think you would rather be worried about your social status. I don't give a damn about mine."


After I graduate from university, I plan to send an email to that teacher who discouraged me from attending the vocational technical school because of the so called "new mandatory fee" and explain to her that I became a sucess despite her negative remarks about the school I decided to attend because I like the environment far more than my regular high school.


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19 Sep 2011, 2:55 pm

obviously the people you need to stand up against need more help then you :P
they need a good psychiatrist asking me. :P


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19 Sep 2011, 3:01 pm

Christopherwillson wrote:
obviously the people you need to stand up against need more help then you :P
they need a good psychiatrist asking me. :P


I know, according to society we are the ones who lack empathy. Just look at that video from Kathie Lee Gifford on the Today Show that I discussed on my blog.


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19 Sep 2011, 3:05 pm

d057 wrote:
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obviously the people you need to stand up against need more help then you :P
they need a good psychiatrist asking me. :P


I know, according to society we are the ones who lack empathy. Just look at that video from Kathie Lee Gifford on the Today Show that I discussed on my blog.

I don't seem to find it? can you link it please?


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19 Sep 2011, 3:28 pm

Christopherwillson wrote:
d057 wrote:
Christopherwillson wrote:
obviously the people you need to stand up against need more help then you :P
they need a good psychiatrist asking me. :P


I know, according to society we are the ones who lack empathy. Just look at that video from Kathie Lee Gifford on the Today Show that I discussed on my blog.

I don't seem to find it? can you link it please?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwuJy07lQY


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19 Sep 2011, 3:40 pm

d057 wrote:
Christopherwillson wrote:
d057 wrote:
Christopherwillson wrote:
obviously the people you need to stand up against need more help then you :P
they need a good psychiatrist asking me. :P


I know, according to society we are the ones who lack empathy. Just look at that video from Kathie Lee Gifford on the Today Show that I discussed on my blog.

I don't seem to find it? can you link it please?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwuJy07lQY

Thank You :D


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19 Sep 2011, 4:31 pm

I don't have a problem sticking up for myself. I insist that all three of my sons learn to do it too.

I don't want anyone else sticking up for me, unless I know them VERY well, and it's for good reason. If they do not agree with me, I'd rather they say so.

I see too much hypocrisy in the world when it comes to family, friends and acquaintances sticking up for each other. Too often I've seen people sticking up for actions others they know took, even though they don't agree with the action, just because "he's family," or "he's a friend."

Friendship and family as far as I am concerned shouldn't be a license to gain support from others even when those others don't really agree with you.

When people defend me just because I'm a friend, and I KNOW they don't really agree with what I did or said, it puts me in the uncomfortable position of them being a friend, yet my also knowing their "defense" of me is really disingenuous. That, to me, is hypocritical.

I've got no problem accepting support when people agree with me, but please, if you don't, let me speak for myself.

The truth is, I really don't trust many other people to speak up for me, and I'd rather most didn't.


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19 Sep 2011, 4:55 pm

No, what you need to do is beat their f*****g heads into the nearest furniture.
It will amaze you the friends you make.

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20 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

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I don't have a problem sticking up for myself. I insist that all three of my sons learn to do it too.

I don't want anyone else sticking up for me, unless I know them VERY well, and it's for good reason. If they do not agree with me, I'd rather they say so.

I see too much hypocrisy in the world when it comes to family, friends and acquaintances sticking up for each other. Too often I've seen people sticking up for actions others they know took, even though they don't agree with the action, just because "he's family," or "he's a friend."

Friendship and family as far as I am concerned shouldn't be a license to gain support from others even when those others don't really agree with you.

When people defend me just because I'm a friend, and I KNOW they don't really agree with what I did or said, it puts me in the uncomfortable position of them being a friend, yet my also knowing their "defense" of me is really disingenuous. That, to me, is hypocritical.

I've got no problem accepting support when people agree with me, but please, if you don't, let me speak for myself.

The truth is, I really don't trust many other people to speak up for me, and I'd rather most didn't.


Just like this guy who says he supports the Westboro Baptist Church but says he supports "the homosexual agenda", but rambles on an on about how we should follow "proper protocol" when dealing with their hatred. Listen to him ramble for ten minutes, if you can even bare to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-l5Rx9A8ek


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20 Sep 2011, 4:41 pm

I was always attacked and bullied as a kid but I never hesitated to try and stick up for myself.


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20 Sep 2011, 5:56 pm

d057 wrote:
Just like this guy who says he supports the Westboro Baptist Church but says he supports "the homosexual agenda", but rambles on an on about how we should follow "proper protocol" when dealing with their hatred. Listen to him ramble for ten minutes, if you can even bare to do so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-l5Rx9A8ek


Sorry, I am unable to discern any connection to his ramblings and what I had to say. I suppose that may be because I was also unable to bare his ramblings for more than about two minutes.

That was a painful two minutes too, I must say. Thanks a lot for that. :? :evil: :P


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20 Sep 2011, 6:02 pm

I stand up for myself by expressing my genuine thoughts and feelings. Most of my thoughts and feelings are unrelated to other people. Some people mistakenly interpret my thoughts and feelings as being related to themselves. Some people do not like it when I stand up for myself by expressing my genuine thoughts and feelings.