Opioids: abstrain to get "extra high"

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My tolerance to gluten/casein is high, recieving several servings of either daily.
To confirm (?)- it takes several days abstraining from casein to notice improvement from the opiate-like effects, and over a year with no gluten there will be improvement.

If I wish to completely abstrain from (either/or) gluten/casein, how long should I wait until dosing up again?
Weird idea, but would it be possible to use wheat and milk recreationally like opiates?

Like any drug, if my tolerance is high, and then lowered ... then I consume a low amount: the opiate-like effects should be stronger.

from the small amount I know...it stays in your body for a while. usuing it as one would use a recreational drug..well. it wouldn't really function that way. and I am sorry to be an ass...but it is "abstain".

Skee,

Disclaimer. I am certainly not a doctor. I am taking tyrosine and acetyl-l-carnitine to
maybe do something similar.(I want to get back all the good habits, talents, etc... I once had). Still...

According to wikipedia:

Theory

The molecular structure of the partially undigested proteins, known as peptides, resemble opiates. It is thought that such peptides have an effect much like opiates in the brain and nervous system. From this premise it follows that long term exposure to these opiate peptides can have many damaging effects on the developing brain and also affects behavior, just as any narcotic would.

The opioid peptides involved are identified as casomorphines from casein, and gluten exorphines and gliadorphin from gluten.

[edit] Reported effects

Many parents report that removing casein and gluten from their child's diet increases eye contact, attention span, and general mood while decreasing problems like tantrums, self-stimulatory behavior (such as hand-flapping and rocking) and aggression. Many find that providing a diet free of casein and gluten aids children in successfully learning daily living skills like dressing, using the toilet as well as improving coordination and imaginative play activities. In a small number of cases, such dietary changes have resulted in dramatic improvements, enabling the child to attend mainstream educational programs in a matter of months.

I would say stay away.

Steve

Yeah the effect is mild if at all. I drank half gallon (2 liters) of milk a day for many years.

I have in the past took d (or dl) phenylanine (an amino acid )as it is reported to reduce endorphin metabolism and then drank a large mouthfull of tabassco to induce "pain" that would trigger an endorphin rush. So your no crazier than me.

The Machine1,

The effect depends on your physiology. For me, for example, it doesn't seem to make ANY difference! I've drunk LITERALLY 2 gallons of milk a day for a week with NO effect other than getting stronger, and fat changes(With Full milk I can lose wieght if I cut out other stuff, or gain if I don't). As for bread? Almost every meal I have ever had has at least 2 slices. I used to get 4-5 quarter pounders every time my mother went to mcdonalds.

Of wikipedia symptoms, I only have eye contact, attention span, and general mood and self-stimulatory behavior. MAYBE a little anger(does that count as agression?) NO link to gluten or casein intake though.

As for Phenylalanine? I would suggest not overdoing it! The mechanism used to metabolize it can get overloaded, and some can't metabolize it properly. THAT is why so many sugarless products have that warning. I apparantly don't have THOSE problems either, but DID develop a sensitivity for "nutrasweet.

Steve