Is it possible to have average/high iq and poor memory?

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18 Dec 2019, 10:01 am

Is it possible to have average or high iq and a poor working memory at The same Time?

I have a poor working memory, but I always score 120-131 on a iq-test's that I have taken.

Why do I have so poor working memory?



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18 Dec 2019, 10:05 am

Anything is possible.....

People with Williams Syndrome often have about a 50 IQ, but a pretty good memory.



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18 Dec 2019, 10:08 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Anything is possible.....

People with Williams Syndrome often have about a 50 IQ, but a pretty good memory.


But, is it common for autistic individuals to have poor working memory or good working memory?



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18 Dec 2019, 10:10 am

It depends on the autistic person.

I have decent "working memory"---but poor short-term memory.



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18 Dec 2019, 11:20 am

A characteristic of autism is a poor correlation between cognitive abilities.

I have a high IQ and good memory. I do have a face blindness problem that is common to many people on the spectrum. I can remember conversations made years ago but can't remember that person's face!



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18 Dec 2019, 12:18 pm

Spede wrote:
Is it possible to have average or high iq and a poor working memory at The same Time?


I have a very high IQ and poor memory, most especially short-term memory. It's always been like this.



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18 Dec 2019, 12:22 pm

I can have a conversation on the phone and if someone says something that contradicts something they said five minutes earlier, I can remember that contradiction and carefully work that into how I proceed with the conversation. I think this counts as above average short term memory.



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18 Dec 2019, 12:38 pm

Spede wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Anything is possible.....

People with Williams Syndrome often have about a 50 IQ, but a pretty good memory.


But, is it common for autistic individuals to have poor working memory or good working memory?


I don't know about that, but it's common for the skill levels of autistic people to be all over the place. Many of us excel in some things and really suck at some others.



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18 Dec 2019, 1:52 pm

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The results showed no clear link between IQ score and the strength of working memory. Although all of the students had a high IQ, they didn’t all score at the top of the scale in working memory. In fact, their working memory scores ran the gamut from low to high. It seems that students with a high IQ but low working memory are more likely to be underachievers, and students with both a high IQ and a strong working memory are most likely to excel.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... we-testing



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18 Dec 2019, 2:21 pm

I have overall superior intelligence (e.g. very superior perceptual reasoning, average verbal). My self-perception is that my working memory is horrible, but my testing shows that it is actually High Average --- still my assessor called it out as a "personal" weakness - it inhibits me from hitting my potential.

Everyone is always saying I am brilliant, which is quote frustrating b/c I know how much a struggle, so now I assure myself "and quite average in some ways" (and have self compassion for my difficulties).

Any particular difficulties you are having?



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18 Dec 2019, 3:53 pm

I tested as having slightly above average IQ, and I had poor working memory even before I had ECT that destroyed what memory I did have. After that, I can forget what's on TV during a commercial break, my short-term memory is so bad.


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18 Dec 2019, 4:16 pm

My Cognifit assessment

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18 Dec 2019, 5:52 pm

Spede wrote:
Is it possible to have average or high iq and a poor working memory at The same Time?

I have a poor working memory, but I always score 120-131 on a iq-test's that I have taken.

Why do I have so poor working memory?


I have a poor memory also, and an IQ of around 135.

I recently researched and found information which indicated the link between poor memory and "Executive Functioning" problems.
Memory is significantly affected if you have EF issues, which many on the spectrum do have.
ADD affects memory also.
And yes, I have that too, as do many other autistics.

Life was not meant to be easy if you are on the spectrum.
What can you do? <shrug>



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18 Dec 2019, 6:00 pm

BTDT wrote:
I do have a face blindness problem that is common to many people on the spectrum.


I have that too.
I didn't realise it was common for those on the spectrum.

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Prosopagnosia, also called face blindness,[2] is a cognitive disorder of face perception in which the ability to recognize familiar faces, including one's own face (self-recognition), is impaired, while other aspects of visual processing (e.g., object discrimination) and intellectual functioning (e.g., decision-making) remain intact.



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18 Dec 2019, 6:47 pm

Yes.

It's currently my most commonly occurring state for now. Hopefully.

I knew what it was like to have a good working memory from having a crappy one.
What I mean by 'good' I meant 'enough' to work around with (not necessarily better than average); and when I mean by 'crappy' I meant 'likely nonexistent'.

It is true as what the study says; with good working memory and my current IQ, I've been very reliable to myself and others, therefore can achieve things, can balance life, can resolve and go through things.
And when it's not, then it's not. This has nothing to do with mood, situations, attitudes, or even experiences -- only lacking of necessary tools and resources.

Currently having on a crappy one by running on empty fuel.
So whatever past experiences I have; it just becomes irrelevant simply because I was not at the same state as I was back then when I can afford several weaknesses into strength.


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20 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm

when i took the Weschler 2004 san diego, Rote Memory was a part of the IQ test

it counted for about one tenth of the score

working memory, long term memory, there are different types of memory

however, i think that not only is it possible to have a high IQ and poor memory, but there is no correlation between IQ and memory