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THIS POLL IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER TAKEN AN IQ TEST BEFORE.

If you have never taken an IQ test before, I ask you to submit a self estimate of your own IQ.

IQ score chart
(Roughly)
60-80 = Below Average
80 - 99 - Low Average
100-115 = High Average
115 - 129 = Superior (Above average)
130 - 140 = Very Superior (Gifted)
140+ = Genius

So where is your range of intelligence? If you had to guess.


NOTE (Read the following AFTER you vote:)

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So far (as of 5/31/2012) 47 people have voted in this poll and 36 of the 47 have guessed that their IQ is above average. Therefor, the average person that has voted in this poll believes that their intelligence is above average. It is my guess that the smarter people who voted in this poll are the ones who logically concluded that their IQ is average. Because if you do not know what your IQ is and if the average person is 100 to 129 then it follows that logically 100 to 129 is probably where you fall between. It is very interesting to see how the confident the average person is in their own intelligence.

Last edited by Ark on 31 May 2012, 10:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Hard to tell without test. Just a guess. Remember, a true genius is born once in a generation, and an idiot is born every minute.

People tell me I'm smart. I'm too scared to take the test because it might state I'm as dumb as a box of bricks!

Oh really now?

Actually its impossible to tell without a test. Officially that is.

A poll like this will be skewed towards the higher end, since 130+ has a higher chance of looking at a topic like this, and voting, than <70. I've only met one guy who bragged about his low IQ, while I've met tons of people bragging about their high IQ. Just saying..

It's kinda funny how these polls show up over, and over..
25.apr 2012 http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt196603.html
31.dec 2009 http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt115376.html

Last edited by Blownmind on 31 May 2012, 2:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

What makes you think people with an IQ 130+ would be more likely to look at a topic like this?

(more likely than those with 70 or lower, thats important to notice)
For one thing, there are many aspies here, and a diagnostic criteria is "normal or higher IQ".
For another, the general concensus in society is that high IQ is good, low IQ is bad, therefore it's more likely to look for IQ tests/polls if you got something to brag about.
A third reason would be that those with less than 70 might be embarrased.

To me it's only logical that these result will be skewed.

Pick up a phone, dial 200 different random phonenumbers and ask them for their IQ, those results would be less skewed, but still skewed, since I believe the higher IQ you have, the more certain you are that you have high IQ. And therefore more likely to take a test to see how high, so you can get a confidence boost.

But then again, you have people like Stephen Hawking, he has supposedly never taken an IQ test, and claim those who do "are losers". I don't know, but to me it sounds like a man who relish in being viewed as a very smart man, and are afraid of getting an actualy number that might be lower than expected.

All this being said, even though I have my IQ in my signature(as a gauge for how Aspie I am, since its a diagnostic criteria), I don't believe IQ test should be given too much value. There are so many different out there, so many unofficial test you can take online, so many types of intelligence. Most tests usually measure the logical and spatial IQ, which Aspies more often than not are awesome at. But there are more aspects to messure; Linguistic and verbal intelligence, Body/movement intelligence, Musical intelligence, Interpersonal intelligence, Intrapersonal intelligence...

I think that it is more likely for people who have a high opinion of themselves to look up IQ related articles. This entire post is a test to see how smart the average person thinks they are. The logical answer would be average but I'm guessing most people will guess that they at least have an above average IQ because people who look this stuff up in the first place probably think that they are intelligent.

As for Stephen Hawking, I know that he has never taken one and I agree with him personally. I have never taken one either and some people like you might think it is because we are afraid of getting a "lower than expected" score but for me its more about being limited. I'd rather not set limits to my intellectual abilities. I'd rather not put myself on a scale and say "this is how far I can go. No further." I'd rather have the illusion of limitlessness because at least with this illusion, I won't hold back. I won't be intimidated by intelligent people either because in my mind, my intelligence is boundless. To me it is a much more powerful state of mind.

I can't really speak for Hawking obviously but those are my thoughts on the matter.

Aside from that, I just find it extremely interesting how Intelligence is defined in society and I'm curious to see how other people view themselves and the concept of intellect in general.

IMO a poll would be skewed to the high end simply because people tend to over estimate their abilities. That simple, ego.

I'm not following what you said about IQ being a criteria for diagnosis. In my mind a FSIQ score would only be used by an evaluator to determine whether a person should be placed in the classic autism category or the AS category (in the context of testing for ASD). It has been my understanding that IQ tests are used primarily to test for strengths and weaknesses and significant disparity at the subtest and index level. A pattern of 'peaks and valleys' would be used as ONE OF the indicators that ASD is present. In my case some of my subtest scaled scores were 7 while others were 19; taken together they indicated a FSIQ in the normal range but this level of disparity in scores only occurs in a truly miniscule percentage of the general population.

In the case of an FSIQ of 138 you are near the ceiling of the test. This would indicate a great deal of consistency among the subtest and index scores and therefore would work AGAINST a diagnosis of AS. Am I missing something? Could you explain how FSIQ is being used as a diagnostic criteria?

For me, I saw other people intimidating IQ-wise without measuring my IQ or theirs... My weakest point is memorizing and recalling information, especially written. There are people who seem formidable in this respect to me. I've been many times humiliated by this in my life.


There are certainly different types / kinds of intelligence. The more I think about it the more I believe that one of my strongest points is systemizing very different types of information, aside from such trivia as computer programming...


I think there's room for scatter for an IQ score of 138. I understand that an unusually high overall IQ score does not allow too much scatter, though.

FSIQ(in most cases WAIS or WISC I suspect) would be used to find peaks and valleys, to determine ASD, I've understood that much from reading around this forum. I think we talk about different IQ tests, which is exactly my point, there are too many different tests; WAIS, WISC, RPM and FRT(Figure Reasoning Test) are some kinds, and I have taken the latter since thats what was needed to get into Mensa. You can argue that my IQ is not 138 of course, and I wouldn't dispute you on that. I have never taken a Full Scale IQ test.

In all the diagnostic criteria, in ICD-10 / DSM-IV, mentioning intelligence, and in all the threads about it on this forum, I have not yet seen it being differentiated between IQ and FSIQ. I would love for you to enlighten me on the subject. Are all non-FSIQ tests invalid when it comes to the diagnostic criterias?

The average person in these forums, you mean. That alone is enough to skew the results.

I'm just confused by the whole idea of this poll. If you have not taken a test, then you don't know what the result would have been in the first place. If you plan to compare it to other polls on this site, then the ones who answered there will not be the same people. Do you plan to ask everyone who has taken this poll, when enough have answered, to take an IQ test to see how that compares to the result of the poll?

I don't see how this poll will show you if "the average person" thinks s/he has higher IQ than s/he actually has. Could you explain it to me please? The logical answer when you did a poll over the phone would be average, true, but I have a feeling this forum on average consists of members with a higher than average IQ.

No haha I do not expect this poll to be accurate for the 'average' person. Perhaps I should have said the average person on this site. And that is what I mean.

And of course you wouldn't know what the result is if you hadn't taken the test. The point of this poll is to find out what people THINK that they would score. I am interested in how other people view themselves and their intelligence, not how they actually are or what their intelligence actually is.

Also you've never taken a full scale IQ test? What makes you think that your IQ is 138 then? I'm just curious.

http://www.mensa.org/ in my country use a logical / spatial IQ test. Quote from their website: "Membership of Mensa is open to persons who have attained a score within the upper two percent of the general population on an approved intelligence test that has been properly administered and supervised" which means it has to be higher than 130 on a SD15 official test. Thats why I claim I have 138, since it was an official test. However, like I said, if you disagree with me, and claim I do not have 138 and can not claim it until I've taken a full scale IQ test like WAIS, I won't dispute that.

I think you read to much into my post, it was meant at to be taken literally and at face value. Honestly I don't give a crap about your IQ score or whether you choose to post it. You said that you post your IQ score, "as a gauge for how Aspie I am, since its a diagnostic criteria". I simple wanted to know who is using a FSIQ score as diagnostic criteria and how are they using it.

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For the record an IQ of 138 would put you above 99.43% of the population which would make it an "unusually high" score and there would be no room for statistically significant scatter. Also, the mean IQ score for aspies is actually slightly lower than the mean IQ of the general population.