are you low functining autistic/high funcitining autistic ?

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11 Feb 2012, 11:50 pm

Are you lower functining autistic or higher functining ?

i am more lower functining.
but some pepole dont understand how i am able to draw pictures and type .
i am not very verbal and have difcult have meltdowns that involve self injury i mean.
i panic without headphones especialy when outside


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12 Feb 2012, 12:06 am

IQ score is the only thing that denotes whether one is low or high functioning.

Mild, moderate and severe are better terms, though they're still misleading in that you might have one part that's really severe but the rest mild. It's too hard to tell objectively. Perhaps how much support you need is a better way to go.

Using how much support I need and in comparison to my nephew [who needs a lot at school where I needed none], I'll go mild, as apart from needing a disability pension [due to being unable to work like normal people], I can look after myself well enough with a routine.



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12 Feb 2012, 12:12 am

my autism is moderate. I think I am high fuctioning.



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12 Feb 2012, 1:14 am

Dillogic wrote:
IQ score is the only thing that denotes whether one is low or high functioning.

Mild, moderate and severe are better terms, though they're still misleading in that you might have one part that's really severe but the rest mild. It's too hard to tell objectively. Perhaps how much support you need is a better way to go.

Using how much support I need and in comparison to my nephew [who needs a lot at school where I needed none], I'll go mild, as apart from needing a disability pension [due to being unable to work like normal people], I can look after myself well enough with a routine.


Hmm ok .


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12 Feb 2012, 1:17 am

SkyHeart wrote:
my autism is moderate. I think I am high fuctioning.



ok


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12 Feb 2012, 1:17 am

On the DSM-4 scale im high fuctioning with some low fuctioning behavioures, it just depends on the day to me. On the proposed DSM-5 scale I fall in between leval 1 and leval 2.



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12 Feb 2012, 1:25 am

DJRAVEN66 wrote:
On the DSM-4 scale im high fuctioning with some low fuctioning behavioures, it just depends on the day to me. On the proposed DSM-5 scale I fall in between leval 1 and leval 2.


I dont know what that is, i just had where they asked my mum about when i was younger, and they recorded me with a camera video and kept trying to get me to speak.


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12 Feb 2012, 1:43 am

I really dislike the high functioning/low functioning distinction, because it is just not descriptive enough to get any amount of information across.

However, in the proposed DSM-5 severity levels, I fall between levels 1 and 2. Nobody sees me without support so its hard to get a real judge of where I'd fall on that, but its definitely more than level 1, and definitely not more than level 2.



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12 Feb 2012, 1:48 am

I am about the only one on wrong planet who likes the labels.I like them because they give you a general idea how "autistic" a person is, though I don't think they should be used as a black and white think. I'm not sure, I have the meltdowns at the lowest functioning level, however, I am high functioning on every other level. So because there is only one thing that makes me low functioning, I'd say I'm high functioning because I would be able to pass as NT very easily without the meltdowns.



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12 Feb 2012, 2:01 am

I am definitely high-functioning. I have a lot of respect for low-functioning autistics. In fact sometimes I feel like a "fraud" when I consider how much more severe my condition could be.



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12 Feb 2012, 6:52 am

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I am definitely high-functioning. I have a lot of respect for low-functioning autistics. In fact sometimes I feel like a "fraud" when I consider how much more severe my condition could be.


I also feel like this sometimes. I am high-functioning and level 1 on the proposed dsm-v, so i'm mildly autistic, although where I live the preferred phrase is 'i have mild autism'. Not sure why that is.



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12 Feb 2012, 8:10 am

Dillogic wrote:
IQ score is the only thing that denotes whether one is low or high functioning.


I thought life skills, level of dependency and communication were factors that contributed towards whether someone is high or low functioning, not just intelligence or IQ.



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12 Feb 2012, 8:52 am

Wolfheart wrote:
Dillogic wrote:
IQ score is the only thing that denotes whether one is low or high functioning.


I thought life skills, level of dependency and communication were factors that contributed towards whether someone is high or low functioning, not just intelligence or IQ.


That is the labels Mild, Moderate, Severe you are thinking of. Those refer to life skills, dependency, communication etc.

High/low functioning is the label that is IQ based, and imo is the label we could go without. While yes, there will be different levels of issues if someone has a particularly lower IQ, I still think the Mild/Mod/Severe label would adequately handle the distinction of what is relevant for establishing requisite care and support. And that’s what really matters. (imo)


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12 Feb 2012, 9:20 am

I am high-functioning. I have mild AS, I can hide my AS, I understand body language and other non-verbal cues, I am interested in people, my special interests are based around social interaction, I am good at knowing other people's intentions, and I can just easily pass off as just a shy, meek NT. I may act a bit odd in front of a few people but not enough to suspect an ASD. I am not going to tell them about my ASD, so they'd just have to put up with it.

I can do things for myself, although I do need some support because I am quite a slow learner. I can cook (if I learnt), clean, wash myself, and do anything else that anyone else can do. And I can go out and about on my own, just my Social Anxiety holds me back, which is disabling but in a different way. I CAN do these things, but not without therapy, which is what I'm getting.


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12 Feb 2012, 9:51 am

Declension wrote:
I am definitely high-functioning. I have a lot of respect for low-functioning autistics. In fact sometimes I feel like a "fraud" when I consider how much more severe my condition could be.


Same here. There's days when I felt that I actually only had a small speech delay and therefore otherwise NT. ( was DX'd in preschool)

Then again, I go bananas when a train horn blows only a couple feet away from me so I always try to predict when it would blow :oops: :oops:

I can read people's emotions, somewhat tell if someone's lying, and only injure myself on accident. :)


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12 Feb 2012, 10:06 am

High/low-functioning labels are meaningless. You can see examples on this thread; people don't know exactly what they mean--and it's not because they're ill-informed, either. It's because every doctor you meet will have a different definition of them. There is no official definition for those terms, and if you use them, you have to clarify what you mean by them every time.

You can go by GAF, which is a 1-100 scale that shows exactly how you are coping right now in your daily life. On the GAF scale, I range anywhere from the 20s to the 60s. Right now I am in my usual spot in the mid-50s, which is common for disabled people in general.

You can talk about how good someone is at communicating--whether they can communicate sometimes, always, or communicate some things but not other things--like being able to answer questions but not spontaneously explain something that they are thinking about. On that scale, I am toward the more skilled end, able to speak almost all of the time, read and write all of the time unless in complete shutdown, start conversations on my own, and make up my own sentences fast enough to participate in a normal-speed conversation with up to two people at once.

You can talk about how good someone is at taking care of themselves, all the way from things like remembering to eat, to doing your own laundry, to earning money for yourself. That's not a one-dimensional scale, either--some people who can work might still be reminded to eat, for example. Me--well, I can't work yet; but I can't go to school. I can do my own self-care and don't need an aide, but it took me until my late teens to learn, and it still takes more time than it does for most people. I can clean my own apartment. I'm still routine-dependent for all of it, but the routines work, so why complain?

Those things don't really go together. There are people who can take care of themselves but not talk; people who have a low GAF score who are employed. Each case is different. Most people on the spectrum could probably be called "high-functioning" by some criteria and "low-functioning" by others. And it's even worse that lots of people think that "HFA" and "LFA" are official diagnostic labels that can be used to predict things about a person. They can't--but that doesn't stop people from hearing that you are one or the other and making assumptions that often aren't true.

Functioning levels, are meaningless. There's nothing you can say with functioning levels that you don't have to clarify afterward to make sure you're not misunderstood.


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