Fellow Aspies, Need help with possible Sociopath.
Hello Ladies/Gentlemen,
My Story,
There is a guy that works with me, a possible sociopath, I believe this because he is always trying to expose me. He is very very gifted/talented and breaking down peoples personality with minutes of talking to him, I mean it is very interesting to see. But, I believe his problem with me is, he may have a hard time trying to break down me, or any Aspie for that nature since we do not talk much, so I think the typical Sociopath results into thinking the Aspie is hiding something. So anyway, I briefly discontined my over the top weird obsessions about space and science to study him in great detail. These are the things I have picked up from him. Appears to be a peoples person, social genuis, very manipulative. A Pro at breaking down peoples personality. Egocentric, complete focus on peoples reaction, almost like a great satisfaction in a sick fetish responding type of way, in other words he likes the pleasure in exposing people to their flaws, most of the time without telling them, I know because he tells me about the people he does this too, and he is more than likely 90 percent accurate of the time. Seems to show a lack of empathy like Aspies. Very Persasive, extreme charm to females, hates animals of all kind, and likes to kill pigeons with a bebe gun while he is home. Extreme focus and eye contact regarding the person engaged in conversation with him. More home work out of my curosity of breaking him down, he never receives mail like everyone else that works for our company, he never talks about himself as to decrease self exposure. Has no public records on the internet, his personality does not fit his age, he is 31, but maybe due to his social skills he seems older and wiser beyond his years. He is 31. We play video games at night sometimes, and he is completely normal, but during work ours, give him a crowd, and he starts trying to diagnosis people, he is usually mostly correct, until he attempts it with me. lol - Just to clarify, when I said he never receives mail, this indicates to me that he either does not have a public address, does not like paper trails, is not who he says he is, or is hiding from something or someone for something that he did or commited in the past, oh yeah, he does not own a credit card also. Aspies, my question, do you think this guy fits the description of a sociopath, and should I continue to engage in being friends or whatever you want to call it with him, or should I did more and start exposing him to himself, especially since he might not even be aware that he is a sociopath, or just leave him alone, your thoughts????
I really want to expose this dude, to give him a taste of his own medicine, but I know his brain is wired different like ours, and would just resist and deny all accusations. But to expose him would be to expose myself, and he would know that something is not quite right, and how did I come up with this conclusion.
Don't you think that this is unhealthy & I am sure that would be classed as "defamation of character" if he's the sueing type & I don't know how successful one would be in that legal stance.
But you seem to be the type to be kept out of a "DSM" book etc & jumping to too many conclusions.
Mummy_of_Peanut
Veteran

Joined: 20 Feb 2011
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,564
Location: Bonnie Scotland
He doesn't sound like a nice sort but I think you'd have a hard time trying to expose this guy. You say he's socially manipulative, something I suspect you are not. He would probably get the better of you (and I mean that in the nicest possible way). I'd advise you to just give him a wide berth, be pleasant, but don't allow yourself to become an acquaintance.
_________________
"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all we need to make us really happy is something to be enthusiatic about." Charles Kingsley
Thanks for the replies, I must admit, I do not enjoy the digging of information that he does to others, and they are not aware of his tactics. As far as legal issues go, I did not mention his name, all I did was a such of public information on him, nothing more. He really treats people bad, I do not like it at all, but you are right, I should not label him just because, but I still do not feel right as to the way he treats people, if anybody is able to give him a taste of his own medicine it is me. But I respect allot of people on WP, and I respect your thoughts, so I will leave it be. But I really really want to get him, trust me, but I will hold back. The only time he appears normal is when he does not have a crowd, then he seems like an average person. Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.
I think my downstairs neighbour might be a female sociapath but I haven't worked it out yet. She could be a borderliner as well.
I ignore her, avoid any form of contact and I don't let her get a grip on me which is easy because it comes natural to me.
I consider that to be one of the advantages of having aspergers.
Mummy_of_Peanut
Veteran

Joined: 20 Feb 2011
Age: 52
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,564
Location: Bonnie Scotland
Although we're telling you to leave it, that does not extend to actual bullying or victimisation or law breaking that he may be involved in (disciplinary or matters for the police). If you feel you are ever mistreated by him, and have evidence to prove it, do not ignore it. You will need to have documentation or witnesses to specific incidents, for it to be taken further. The best of luck to you.
_________________
"We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all we need to make us really happy is something to be enthusiatic about." Charles Kingsley
I'm unsure where the issue here is. People are deceptive, critical, and manipulative by nature. But the obvious thing to do if you don't like how someone is talking to you (which is probably perceived as fun to him), is to not hang out with him - such as playing video games after work.
You need to be subtle about how you disengage from their company though with people like this.
There are people who have a special interest in 'reading others'. A crowd is a prime opportunity to practice their skill set... incognito. And, like any special interest, it can easily become an obsession; a compulsion to do IT if the right conditions occur.
I think IF you try to give this fellow a taste of his own medicine be prepared to go the distance regardless of whether he is a sociopath or not. From what I have read; he seems to get off on indiscriminately analyzing and exposing people.
Do NOT, i repeat, Do NOT assume THAT this fellow has not gathered a lot of information about YOU through observation, also.
You might want to limit your contact........
TheSunAlsoRises
Last edited by TheSunAlsoRises on 12 Mar 2012, 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
You can never win with a sociopath!
If that is what he is then you need to break of contact in a way that wont make him suspicious.
You do not want an angry sociopath on your back!
Salome is totally right, except you wouldn't make him angry imo (it takes a lot to anger a sociopath , although they are quite skilled at pretending they're angry) but you would attract his attention.......you really don't want that .
My opinion : as long as you tolerate his weird "jokes" (private jokes , i totally understand what you mean with those: he doesn't need his target to know he's making subtle fun of them to be amused , he's his own private sick clown ) and you maintain an aspie face, he'll wonder whether you're like him or what . Your best bet is to back away from the friendship slowly without startling him, like you would back away from a sleeping lion.
Kjas
Veteran

Joined: 26 Feb 2012
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 6,059
Location: the place I'm from doesn't exist anymore
Sounds like behaviour of someone with an ASPD. I have seen similar behaviour in people with BPD, NPD and sociopaths / psychopaths.
First of all, is his mood very stable? Or does he tend to "swing" with his moods on the occasion(not all the time, just occasionally)? Or is he more likely to be completely stable and then explode over something which is a small thing to you on a very rare basis when he is extremely angry?
When they have an obsession with something, the last thing you should do either try to stop them (by exposing them) or encourage them (by not letting him figure you out).
If I were you I would "let" him figure you out using whatever method you have to (lie if you have to), just to get him and keep him away from you. At the moment you are a puzzle to him, probably why he still hangs around. If you let him figure you out, I'm sure he will start to leave you alone.
And don't worry about lying, this is one of the few cases where not only it's warranted, it's preferable! At the moment you're probably more of a puzzle to him because he may be wondering if you are like him. What is important is that you stay away from him, far, far away. If you wouldn't walk into a sharks mouth then don't be near him.
_________________
Diagnostic Tools and Resources for Women with AS: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt211004.html
& maybe one of his career profiles would explain why he does it & “Alien” has just got it wrong & the employees don't see this guy as been "bullying" etc.
& that could be misleading because some people blow things out of proportion.
Last edited by TechnoDog on 12 Mar 2012, 11:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
He want need you to talk in-order to break you down.....especially if he is as good as you claim him to be. I hope you know what you're dealing with.
IF you don't:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvmhBO99I4&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL0A98F980778CC05F[/youtube]
TheSunAlsoRises