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20 Mar 2012, 1:45 pm

http://www.livestrong.com/article/12127 ... rs-autism/

im so frusted dealing witrh some as people who now want to say hfa an as is same no iot not after i sent this link to a few of my as friends they got it i have autism an in the as social group you can see the diff


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20 Mar 2012, 1:49 pm

This article is very neat and cozy in how it divides HFA and AS into seperate groups, but the reality is that kids who try to socialise (and fail) are diagnosed with HFA all the time, and kids who had cognitive delays are diagnosed with AS, this article would be accurate if all psychiatrists agreed with it and abided by these neat rules and seperations, but they don't, so in the end it's far messier, making these so called "differences" silly, since there are a lot of people diagnosed with AS who are HFa according to this article, and visa versa.

Also note the article isn't about Aspergers and HFA, it's about Aspergers and LFA.


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20 Mar 2012, 1:54 pm

http://www.sacramentoasis.com/docs/8-22-03/as_&_hfa.pdf

Excerpt from Tony Attwood's book on aspergers syndrome. It says there isn't really a difference between the two.

This is the summary of the three pages or so

Conclusion
Having reviewed the literature, we may be able to answer the question, is there a difference between Asperger's syndrome and High Functioning Autism? The reply is that the research and clinical experience would suggest that there is no clear evidence that they are different disorders. Their similarities are greater than their differences. We appear to be taking, particularly in Europe and Australia, a dimensional view of autism
and Asperger' syndrome rather than a categorical approach. (Leekam, Libby, Wing Gould and Gillberg 2000). At present both terms can be used interchangeably in clinical practice.


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20 Mar 2012, 1:57 pm

Of course there is also the fact that next year there might not even be Asperger's.
It might go to just Autism in the DSM-V
LFA---------HFA



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20 Mar 2012, 2:08 pm

Not only what Phonic said (which is quite important), there are also quite a lot of us who don't neatly fit into one of those categories or the other. You have your "autism" list of traits vs your "AS" traits, what about someone who has some from each list? That's quite a few of us. What about those of us who don't fit either "definition" if you use those exact traits? It's not nearly that simple.

Also, the things it says aren't even actually true overall...


The time I've spent with me (diagnosis Asperger's) and someone with high functioning classic autism, its clear to say that in our cases, she's not "indifferent to social interaction altogther", and I don't monologue at people ignoring their responses.

Initiating and maintaining conversations is something common for people with Asperger's to have major difficulties with. We do have difficulties with nonverbal communication skills too. We do show traits before the age of 3, though they might not be such that people realize that its autism.


I think its clear that you're frustrated at being labeled the same as someone who only have "minor social awkwardness", like Asperger's is often claimed to be, but there's a lot of us with Asperger's who have that same frustration. Denying that I'm autistic actually does far more harm to me than people expecting less out of me because of me being autistic.



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20 Mar 2012, 3:44 pm

...and there's PDD-NOS, to further confuse the matter...


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