Whats with all the suicide threads?

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17 Feb 2013, 5:27 am

Im just wondering with why there are so many suicide threads in general autism discussion? its depressing!

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17 Feb 2013, 5:31 am

i don't know its slightly disturbing, don't like it really. it should not be allowed.

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17 Feb 2013, 5:34 am

Yeah, I noticed that, too.

I think one of the threads is actually trying to help, giving some coping strategies etc because there is/are person(s) who seem to be seriously needing help. We probably shouldn't underestimate their seriousness.

I don't know about the other ones.

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17 Feb 2013, 5:34 am

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i don't know its slightly disturbing, don't like it really. it should not be allowed.

I disagree censoring an issue does not make it go away. clearly suicide is a very big issue amongst people with Asperger's syndrome and autism; it's something that needs to be discussed and not something to be swept under the rug because it doesn't make you feel good.

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17 Feb 2013, 5:46 am

Some of us are aware of an issue only when it is externally brought up, hence the inertia.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:06 am

mrL wrote:

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i don't know its slightly disturbing, don't like it really. it should not be allowed.

i know but there are places where people help people that feel this way, some people may be disturbed by the content, and i am aware of the seriousness but they need professional help and some people on here make matters worse. i dont want it swept under the rug but the situation is very fragile, some people are not very nice on the threads about suicide.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:12 am

Yes, that's what The Haven is for. It's quite shocking seeing it here on General. And maybe this is what the threads complaining about negativity mean. Other than the suicide threads I hadn't noticed any negativity!

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17 Feb 2013, 6:12 am

if the posters on here are truly suicidal then it needs to be dealt with by people who know what they are doing, its very precarious, one negative comment could push someone over the edge if they are already suicidal its dangerous. i have seen some nasty comments on threads about someone who is feeling like life is not worth living, im more worried for the health of the people posting about suicide then anything else.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:13 am

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yeah its quite scary, not from my point of you but being scared for the people that feel that way, there are also hotlines you can call, many places designed to help people who are feeling that way. people on here are not professionals.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:24 am

I thought threads such as that were meant to be in the Haven......

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17 Feb 2013, 6:41 am

In the first two pages, there are a total of three suicide threads*. One is about coping mechanisms, as was mentioned. One is a poll about the frequency with which WP members think about suicide. The third, from page 2, is a discussion about whether or not suicide should be stigmatized by society. The only one you could really categorize as negative is the last one, but even that's subjective.

I'm guessing you guys are mainly concerned about one thread in particular, the one written by DeadEnd? It seems to have mysteriously disappeared... In any case, threads like that are, as far as I can tell, an anomaly in this section of the forum. The other suicide threads are fairly innocuous.

*Threads mentioning suicide in the title. There could be others I'm missing.

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This post bothers me. Are you saying that we should turn away those who seek support? True, we are not professionals, but I think there are reasons why people specifically choose to talk about it here versus speaking to someone via a help line.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:44 am

Just the word 'suicide' itself is highly depressing, extreme and negative, whatever the content of the discussion about it is.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:46 am

whirlingmind wrote:

Just the word 'suicide' itself is highly depressing, extreme and negative, whatever the content of the discussion about it is.

Perhaps, but that's no excuse to censor it. Though, it seems like only one of the aforementioned threads really belongs here. I'd suggest moving the coping mechanisms to Haven, and the stigmatization discussion to PPR or something.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:48 am

Yuugiri wrote:

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no, im not saying for one second we should turn people away, i think its nice that people offer comfort, but that's not always the case, people are not always nice, there are also websites designed to help people who feel this way, even area on this website im sure, but as someone else said this is the general posting site. its someones life you are talking about, you cant afford to have people who say things that may push people over the edge, having that in mind i dont think those posts should be on there for the safety of the people who feel suicidal.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:48 am

I also find it very disturbing. It gives certain organizations that I'm against fuel for their fire.

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17 Feb 2013, 6:50 am

im not saying this for selfish reasons, you have to look at the risk involved. also there may be people who are highly disturbed by the content. but mostly i am concerned about what people may say to the people who say they are suicidal

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