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I have just been to my doctor with work related stress and have been signed off for two weeks.

I said that I was still awaiting for referral to psychiatrist for asperger's diagnosis and wondered if the difficulties I was having were related.

He basically said that I was not asperger's.

I asked if he was a psychiatrist or if he had diagnosed anyone with asperger's before.

He then seemed to get very annoyed and then at the end said that I might like to see a different doctor next time implying that I wasn't welcome to see him.

Am I right to be very upset?

Yeah an asperger dx is something that is rather difficult to obtain. Him making a quick
remark that you did have it means either he does not understand aspergers or is a leading expert in the UK on aspergers.

This is pretty typical. Docs have to 'specialize' in Autism DX, and then have to accept the 'spectrum' example. Unfortunately, the Docs tend to be rather hard-headed about all this, and rather than shades of gray, see it as black or white. To them you're either an ASpie or Autistic, or not. When I asked my therapist for a DX, she told me she didn't have the 'specialized training' to do that.

like most apsies you piss people off without meaning too or trying too, remember this guy has been a smart kid all his life has rarely been wrong and is habitualised not to tolerate anyone questioning his diagnostic ability...he sounds young, i remember from earlier posts you were in the uk?
see a psychologist...not a psychiatrist....psychs are just as bad as doxtors in not being able to recognise aspergers syndrome.
he expects an apolgy and yes he was telling you to piss off....maybe you just should change doctors....i bet he is young.

I have to say, you don’t look like anyone with Aspergers. However, you look a hardman I have to say. When that NT psychologist said that you didn’t have Aspergers did you bombard him with scientific evidence that proves otherwise?

I will probably see you in this site, if you hang around.

Could I ask you some questions.

If you are not from England, What religion are you.
How many programming languages know of. (I personally know more then 15, know how to program in 7).
If an expert knows his stuff, does it piss you of he keeps on telling you what to do?
If you own a car, do you have a strong will to learn how to fix it.
Do load noises make you jump?
Do people laugh at you when you are serious and talking about science?
Do you find NTs Smalltalk boring because it contains no informational value at all?

How are you in relationships. According to what I have learnt from these forums aspeis have very bad time in relationships. And compared to them, I have done rather will considering, I just want to die.

Finally do you have a farely good understanding why aspies and NT they way they are. Do you think you know more then most NT Psychologists do.

I probably sounded too smart, but I had already seen a different doctor before and he had reacted in the same way (though not as unpleasantly), so I had already gone through all the questions from last time and worked out the right answers (I think last time I just apologised and said that I thought the doctor was ignorant).

>have to say, you don’t look like anyone with Aspergers. However, you look a hardman I have to say.
I do look quite cool I think that's a gay thing though. Help and hindrance really. I assumed I couldn't relate to people was because I was gay.

> When that NT psychologist said that you didn’t have Aspergers did you bombard him with scientific evidence that proves otherwise?

He was a doctor not a psychologist. I already had my referral, so did not feel I had to listen to someone not qualified to diagnose.

>If you are not from England, What religion are you.

I do not believe in god.

>How many programming languages know of. (I personally know more then 15, know how to program in 7).

Err, I only know 8 and can programme in 5 (does C+ and C++ count as two - am s**t in both - and two are fortran).

>If an expert knows his stuff, does it piss you of he keeps on telling you what to do?

It pisses me off when they tell me what to do and they *don't* know what the f*6&% their talking about. Besides, doctors are not experts but generalists.

>If you own a car, do you have a strong will to learn how to fix it.

I already know how to fix my car.

>Do load noises make you jump?

They do, but not sure if more than NTs

>Do people laugh at you when you are serious and talking about science?

I don't think so, but my partner is a biochemist and his friends are all scientists *bliss*.

>Do you find NTs Smalltalk boring because it contains no informational value at all?

I hate small talk, though can pretend. Normally I talk about the weather. I love the weather. (I remember my mum used to ask me how my day went in school and I really had no idea what I was supposed to say).

>How are you in relationships. According to what I have learnt from these forums aspeis have very bad time in relationships. And >compared to them, I have done rather will considering, I just want to die.

My relationships have been difficult. My current partner and I met on the internet 3 years ago. He loves me very much which helps alot.

>Finally do you have a farely good understanding why aspies and NT they way they are. Do you think you know more then most NT >Psychologists do.

I am study psychology so yes I have a very good idea and have thought about it alot.

>.i bet he is young.

he was young and am making a complaint against him - if I had been much more down and I didn't have my partner for support, I could have been in a very sorry state.


*sigh* Ultimately, things are not right in my life. I find social relationships and interactions (whether at work or whatever) very very difficult. Either I am apserger's and I can therefore no do much about it except obtain some understanding or I am not which means i can obtain help for whatever social disorder I do have.

Nobody wants to be disabled.

Its all very illogical. All I have done is looked at the criteria and used the Asperger's Assessment Test which came out that i had asperger's. All I need is for someone who knows what they are talking about to explain why they do or dont think, using evidence, I have asperger's.

I think its likely that this General Pratitioner has little if any experience with regard to Autistic Spectrum Disorder, he will perhaps have come across a few autistic toddlers and worried mums and perhaps covered it in Med school, but I expect his knowldege is pretty limited. It would probably be wise to see a different doctor next time, perhaps check them out first to see if they have a reputation for good listening, take along a letter perhaps setting out your concerns and the main difficulties you have. Then the doctor will beable to refer you to a specialist who will carry out a diagnostic assesment.

>the doctor will beable to refer you to a specialist who will carry out a diagnostic assesment.

I had already been referred by another doctor so this doctor didn't really have to say anything, but he did. I saw the doctor because of stress.

I am sorry to hear how you got on with you doctor, my advice would be to see a different doctor next time.
I live in the UK and my doctor is excellent, he is very interested in aspergers and always ask me how I am getting on at the aspergers support group.
I also suffer from social phobia and ocd which have improved a lot with medication.
Simon.

You probably are an aspie the programming languages convinced me that. Not many NTs have any time C++ it is very difficult to learn. I can also say that not many gay men that I know are into programming, I have always thought that they all pure NTs.

On a scientific viewpoint I am confused that and gay person can be an aspie too. I have always thought the reason way nature created gay people was for their great social and leadership skills.

Two completely unrelated things.

If anything I think the broader outlook on life, ability to think outside the box and disdane for convention would make open bi/homosexuality more common.

If your already a social outcast why not?

indeed

The doctor might have been insulted that you questioned his qualifications and experience.

Since he implied that you should see another doctor, it is possible that he is uncomfortable treating you because he is concerned about whether he is qualified or experienced enough to treat you.

He to another doctor might be best for you.

You didn't say that he answered your questions about his qualifications and expertise. With your next doctor, ask them differently, if you decide to ask them at all. You might say, instead, "So, do you get a lot of people in here who do have Asperger's syndrome?" to see what response that elicits.

The exact same thing happened to me with my GP when I asked her for a referral to see a specialist about possible AS.

She said,"you dont have Autism,you can communicate"<--this is a women I see for about 20min 4 times a year."why do you think you may have aspergers?"

Me."I have been researching it on-line for several months and relate to many of the traits.What do you know about aspergers?Why do you think I dont have it?"

(she got very huffy at this point)"The internet is full of misinformation.I will increase your antidepressant but you dont need to see a specialist"

Me."you can increase my Effexor but I still want a referral to rule out the possibility of AS."

she sits down and looks pissed as she writes out referral and says"I'm not going to increase your meds then"and stalks out.


I was in tears during most of this,which made it difficult to "communicate" intelligently.She never even called in a renewal of my Effexor which I had been on for several years.I had to call her office and leave several messages before she filled it.If the pharmacy hadnt "fronted" me several days worth,I would have gotten to experience the joy of Effexor withdrawl.

I was shocked at her lack of empathy and professionalism.I dont care if her ego was damaged by my questioning her authority,people who are that immature have no business in the field of medicine.


Your DR was acting like a little child....your good to be rid of him and you have every right to be pissed about it.I hope you do report his behavior,but I have a feeling nothing will happen to him...This behavior seems to be acceptable in our society.

Aspie_Chav,

Social and leadership skills???? You sound like you fell for that cable brothers garbage.
The ONLY "social" deal I have seen is because some women seem drawn, and of course other "homosexual" men. As for leadership skills? MAYBE over those believing the same stuff. I'll NEVER understand the stuff like "queer eye for the straight guy".

I don't know what you mean by know, and program, but *I* could once program in 10. They included lisp,pascal, basic,fortran,cobol,dibol,6502 assembly and z80 assembly, forth,c. I knew OF perhaps 30 including ones like snobol,algol,apl,6800,68000,rpg, etc.... Of course, the languages have changed over the years. TODAY, it is mainly C/C++, VB, COBOL, PERL, PHP,JAVA, and a couple others. HEY, if you're interested in computers....

Of course, I am not counting SQL which I know, etc....

BTW How would ASPERGERS support a "disabled" claim? If you are disabled, why can't you leave it at that, rather than hunt for a specific diagnoses?

Then again, I will never understand why homosexuals want to become "church leaders" when the Bible SPECIFICALLY speaks AGAINST it, especially the protestant Bible with requirements listed in Timothy. Why NOBODY brings that up really makes me wonder. Is it because it would exclude women, and half the remaining men as well?

Steve