10 things Aspies wish NT's knew

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these topics are kinda annoying.

There is no clear cut line between autism and NT.

There is NT..............whatever you consider a sever form of autism.

You could be considered NT with some quirks, or Slightly Autistic or aspergers, or have autism.

There is no clear cut line, if there were then logically these types of topics would make sense

If there was no clear cut line, then there would be no autism diagnosis. If there was no clearcut line then, sites like this would not exist.

We have WP because there are differences btwn NT's and Aspies.

So scientifically scientists can find a difference in someones brain that is NT compared to having AS?

I did find an article that Temple Grandin wrote on how someone with AS had some portion of the brain that is smaller or larger (don't remember which) than an NT.

BUT she also stated how there was not clear cut difference. She went on to ask how big of a difference would there have to be until someone has AS compared to being NT.

http://www.dana.org/news/cerebrum/detail.aspx?id=2312

This is the link that had it, but the article is long, the information I was going off of is towards the end

There comes a point when you need to stop pussyfooting about in "there's no clear line, it's blurry" and just define who's in what "camp". There is such a thing as an NT, you know it when you see it, and there's such a thing as an autistic, we artificially create these boundaries because they are helpful, not because they are totally accurate.

I wish that NTs and Aspies alike could agree on defining the gray area where the continuum seems to start blending, where Aspies can be too normal to be Aspie, and NTs can be too weird to be NT.

thank you. Why is anyone here, otherwise? Especially the undiagnosed.

Autistics are clearly a small group of people with enough traits in common to receive the same diagnosis.

Well, that's basically what I am but what's so hard about saying that most people who are diagnosed with AS are not in this gray area?

This is like saying there is a spectrum between the color blue and the color green, and that there are degrees of admixture between them of infinitely small scale difference, which means there is not a difference between green and blue so why have different names for them? Or there is a spectrum of height to people, and there no such thing as a tall or short person because there is no clear cut line that distinguishes them....It’s similar to the small rock pile paradox as well.

These letters you are looking at are black right? According to your logic however, since they are not "perfect" black, devoid of all light completely, they're actually grey. And since we cannot create something that literally absorbs all light that there is no such thing as black paint or ink etc, we only have grey. Well, good luck with that crusade, convincing the general population to rename all the ink cartridges and pens and dyes and paints etc to "really super dark grey that was formerly called black".

Yes, we have a spectrum, but there are thresholds within the spectrum that delineate what is, or is not NT/ASD. We generally accept (for ease, or practicality) the diagnostic criteria of ASD to use as that threshold.

I like you. Let's be best friends.

Ooooh, that judgemental thing they do.....I wish they knew better. Not that it's a totally NT thing, I know some Aspies are judgemental as well, and there are NTs who don't judge. But you know what I mean - NTs often don't appreciate Aspie social difficulties, and if they weren't judgemental then they'd give us a chance as long as there was no actual threat to them.

Can we just put aside the AS-are-no-different-than-NT-thing for just a minute?

This type of post could be for any minority group. In fact I've seen something similar on the ADHD forums.

Fact is, sometimes we are criticised because our behaviour seems odd, rude and childish.

So I'll start.

1. I want them to know I will socialise on my terms, not whenever they say I should. I have a very limited mentally capacity to socialise or do any mentally taxing task, so I if I choose to do it on say writing my decision is final and being taken away from that for an hour of chatting about things that won't help me write is probably going to mean I'm not going to be eager for conversation, and probably downright moody.

2. I have to plan my day in advance. Spontaneity bad. If people force it on me I'm going to get very angry.

3. I have severe sensory issues so I'm not going to be pumped to go to a concert or party or family gathering.

4. Sometime I erupt about trivial matters, trivial to other people. I'm not very good at controlling my emotions especially when the stress builds up over days or weeks and keeps getting added to.

5. I cannot just work any job. I have severe sensory issues that must be medicated away, and then I have to deal with anxiety. For the same reasons I will not drive.

6. I only dance to specific music that I actually like. I don't understand how people can just get up and dance to the worst possible music ever.

7. I only correct because I want you to know the facts. I see myself as a teacher.

8. Sometimes my answers are rude and abrupt because I struggle to say them how I originally planned to. Sometimes I can't even tell when I've been rude. Yes, even those times that seemed so obvious to you you gave me a high five for being so damn offensive.

9. I've got many other disorders such a hormone and chemical imbalances that make me have very unusual (for me) behaviour. I have a drug addled brain from side effects of all the medication I've been on. Some side effects were severe and permanent. Sometimes I just argue and go looking for conflict, other times I'm too rationale, then I'm hyper and child-like and then I'm angrier than usual or depressed.

10. No matter how many times you try to teach me I will never be able to hold chop sticks. I still can't even hold a pencil properly.

Those are kind of personal but I wish more people would just realise them by now. I remember when someone was trying to get me to have dinner outside with about six people I barely knew. I was watching Doctor Who and anyway didn't feel like socialising, so while I'm saying rather bluntly 'I'm not joining you' while they are trying to convince me to sit at the table, even got me a plate other people are calling me shy. That's such an insult to me. I've never been shy, just disinterested. If I don't medicate you won't get much out of me conversation wise, so there's no point.

Seconded. I see the concern about generalisations, but you've shown how it's perfectly possible to make your wish list about you and not about their shortcomings. Good way to avoid offending the NTs.

I am one of the NTsand I actually try to watch what I post here, I feel like I post too much sometimes because if anyone should be offended, it's the people who are diagnosed (IMO). I felt bad afterward about the post I made about "weirdos and crazy people" awhile ago.

WP is a place for a minority to come and express themselves, primarily. There are many more NTs here than there used to be, I know I'm similar to people with AS but since I benefit from the privilege of being considered NT in real life, I don't understand the need to have it both ways.

Long story short: I don't think those of you with a diagnosis should filter yourselves too much here.

1. What Aspergers actually is.

I think we can all agree on that.

I like how you have phrased that as well. Instead of "things I wish NTs knew about ASPIES," it's more like, "things I wish PEOPLE knew about ME in order to better understand me."

I wish other people could see inside of my head and understand why I am saying the things I'm saying. Most people don't understand that words are much too limited (or my aphasia is much too strong) for what it is I'm usually trying to convey.