A good old Aspergers rant about NTs

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I just feel like a rant instead of a meltdown.

In my opinion having Aspergers is not our main problem living in a Neurotypical world is.

A very large percentage of NTs have no attention span go to any cinema to experience this.
They kick the back of seats they put their feet on seats and they make noise and talk.
Why do they go to the movie?

NTs suck up to the most popular person even if that person will treat them like crap.

This site has had a fair number of NT trolls saying we are faking it or we are some special club or race.

In my previous job I was a social misfit however the clicks only talked about football gambling and bitched behind each others backs.


Doing my job well was a threat to the lazy apes.
They stole left right and center and wondered my the management treated me better.

I was a suck up because I did not steal and I did my job.

A lot of people in the job hated the management and had constant battles with them.
I was accused of sucking up to them.

The fact is I had very little dealings with the management I just came in on time everyday and did my job.
When I was in need of something in return I got it like flexible hours for family events or appointments.

NTs on an individual basis can be pleasant and clever in numbers they are as dumb as dog dirt.

In an emergency it is everybody for themselves.

In contrast I find that people on this forum and I assume most of us have Aspergers are helpful and nice to each other.
On this forum people and not trying to get one up on each other.

People with Aspergers can concentrate on one subject without distraction in my mind this is a positive.

The NT world is shallow and full of two faced back stabbers.

If any NTs have been offended by this good.

Phew rant over.

Do you feel better after the rant? I hope so. The only problems I ever have with NTs are only those that I live with. I am always disappointing them because I'm not NT. I always feel like I need to be NT and I am sure if I had been NT, my parents would have thought I was the perfect son, but instead, I feel like a disappointment because I can't seem to do anything right. I think it might be a result of my AS traits going unnoticed all of my life and never being diagnosed. They think I'm NT but I am not. I also have no idea how to say anything about how I think I have AS, because I am afraid they will not believe me or will try to deny it.

I am 38 and I only told my family in the last few weeks.

At first they said I was spending too much time on the computer and getting crazy ideas.

The fact is I researched my symptoms and the answer came back as Aspergers.

I an waiting on a formal testing session or whatever they call it however I don't think I have Aspergers I know it.

Or minds tend to work in a more logical by the numbers way.

With NTs it takes time for things to sink in.

They will deny it at first but they will believe you in before long.

And thanks I do feel better after that rant.

Having a rants has got me banned of countless message boards.

I think you are around the wrong people a lot because the NTs I know are not like you described. I know most NTs lack empathy (lack of empathy is an Autistic trait is actually a myth, not sure where that was dragged from), but that doesn't mean they all lie, cheat, steal, and hate. My mum's side of the family are all NTs but they're the most honest, nicest people you'll ever meet, and I'm not just saying that because they're my family, I really mean it. They've been used and took advantage of by partners, and let down again and again. And they're not the only NTs who are like it, there are plenty of others like it too.

NT life isn't all about gossip, obsession with sports, and backstabbing. I know some (or a lot of) people who don't even like any sport, and I like gossip and I'm an Aspie, and I even backstab too. And I know many NTs who aren't in the habit of backstabbing their own friends and family.

The only thing I can rant about NTs is most always expect everyone to be the same, not on the inside (because that's impossible) but on the outside. Walking in the street is a way of getting from A to B and not everybody has the choice but to have to go out, wearing clothes is a way of keeping warm and obviously covering up (since human bodies aren't physically tolerant of the outdoors), but NTs have turned walking in the street into an ''I'm better than you'' compitition, and wearing clothes to compete and tell everybody how trendy you are, and it's gotten so out of hand that anybody who doesn't think the same are ridiculed. People who are independant-minded that think outside the fashion world get so ridiculed it's unbelievable, as though people can't cope with seeing somebody who is not too bothered about fashion trends or the right behaviours. This tree was here a lot long before you were born, let me hug it if I want! (Not literally, that's just an impression).
I'll tell you what - I feel I get more judged when walking into the supermarket to do my shopping than I do when I'm in the pub on a Friday night - before anybody's got drunk yet. What's up with that? I thought it'd be the other way around, being that pubs are sociable places where sociable people go to socialise, whereas most people go to supermarkets on their own not to socialise but to buy food and other necessities for themselves and some people haven't got the choice but to have to go to the supermarket, whereas you've got more of a choice of choosing whether you want to go in a pub or not, so I would've thought people in places like supermarkets would be more tolerant. I prefer to go to a supermarket than a pub, but now I'm not so sure. I think I feel more socially accepted when I'm in a busy pub than I do in a busy supermarket.

Yes I agree it had to be an NT who wrote that Autistic lack empathy if anything it is the other way around.

Your right all NT are not like I described above but loads of them are.

Lastly two people like us can discuss a topic like this in a calm logical manner.

Try posting anything complex on a NT board and you know what comes next.

By complex, do you mean "A rant like the first post in this thread?"
Because if you can't see why people might react badly to being attacked en masse...

That post was for our eyes only.

By complex I will give you an example.


On the subject of bullying in schools I said that teachers just look the other way.

I have come up against stupid people who contend that the bully is a victim too and should not be punished.

I'm NT and I'm not like that, frankly I hate people like that, People like that make me lose hope for humanity. I may be NT but I'm not superfical I could care less about popularity, and frankly the people you are around are stupid to treat you like that AS or not you are still human. I you cant change the people you are around, change the people change the people you hang out with.

You will always have idiots on a job site no matter where you go. Your best bet if to focous on you and ignore the others, you dont need anyone who brings you down.

Thanks and thankfully I am now in a new job and things are going a lot smother.

I think a lot of Aspies try everything to try and pass as an NT all this does is cause stress.

I can't form relationships nor do I drive.

When people ask me about this now I just blank them.

There are many things I do enjoy and I am going to focus on them from now on.

As regards trying to fit in I am 38 now and I am learning to accept myself and not guilt myself out.

You come across as a decent person but for everyone of you there are 3 or 4 dicks.

Thanks for you reply MsNattyable.

I've never been a big fan of how two dimensional a lot of people with ASD seem, is it really necessary to make it Us vs Them? I think in life there are a**holes and bad, cruel people and there also sensitive, empathetic, kind individuals. There's a ton of stuff in between and though I acknowledge that I have an official diagnosis and have had to deal with crappy people, I never think "Well gosh, all those people that don't have ASD really grind my gears sometimes." Yes there are people that don't understand, a lot actually, but I've always had a problem with the NT label because I've probably met an equal amount of "non"-aspies who were very nice, good people. I don't regard them as NT but a fellow human being.

Does anyone else feel this way? Sorry if I'm completely derailing the topic into something else, I was just never a fan of the theory that aspies/autistics are like a separate "evolved" race. Maybe I'm just really sheltered and my family was too accepting of me. Even if there is official truth to the label "neuro-typical", I've just never liked it, it seems egotistical. Yes, we do have something different going on in our head, perhaps on a chemical level, but I think its sh***y to dismiss everyone else as typical.

With that said, I really do dislike ignorant, non-empathetic people.

Last edited by NeueZiel on 14 Jun 2012, 6:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I was thinking you might think that after I posted. lol

No sarcasm.

I read your entire post and I had nothing to add so I just thanked you.

In this little exchange you can see my Aspergers laid bare.

In fairness I think we struggle enough as a group to figure out ourselves.

Many of us struggle with regular people whatever we want to call them.

I do not see any problem in Aspies sticking together and helping each other.

The fact is I can understand an aspie mind mcuh better then a NT mind.

I do not think we are some evolved race or something we do struggle.

Among all the problems there are positives like a long attention span.

II agree with you. I know we use NT and Aspie around here on the forum, and that's fine because it does have it's place. But in the big picture I consider both NT and people with AS humans. Only on the forum do I differentiate. I've read a few threads lately that seem like some sort of AS supremacy movements and it makes me sad because I want to scream out "We're not all like that"! !! There are a LOT of NT's on the forum and we're all here to learn/help. Truth be told, I'm on here EVERYDAY, almost all the time. At work, at home, wherever! I've come to like a lot of folks here and it just makes me sad sometimes because I know I'm not that way at all. I don't like the "Us vs Them" mentality. It reminds me too much of racism.

I'm not going to say that the post didn't rattle me. I wanted badly to post a reply. Frankly I was pissed off!! But I realized it was after all a "rant" and thought I should just let it be. Seems like things have calmed down a bit so here I am. I was raised to be accepting of everyone. I have people in my family with various disabilities and we never treated anyone differently. My approach is to understand and learn as much as I can.

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This was one of my moms pet peeves, and she was NT! She could not stand for someone to kick her seat. One time at the movies, she turned around and grabbed the person's foot!

I think this is what many NTs such as yourself fail to understand. You can say, "we NTs aren't all like that," and that may be true. But by your own admission, your boyfriend has to deal with stuff because of "how he is, and how he can be." Who are the ones treating him "so unfairly"? That's right, NTs. Do you have to deal with this stuff? Nope. So even though you may not be one of those NTs, you're still immune from their crap because they see you as "normal," but not your boyfriend.

So while you may not be like those NTs, you won't be mistreated by them either. Your boyfriend will.

In other words, some NTs will give us hell for being different. Some NTs won't. But the NTs who won't will never experience what we do, because they're NT and thus immune from these experiences.

The irony is that, in a sense, you're actually the one lumping the NTs into one group by trying to defend you're ilk and saying all groups have "bad" people. This is true, yes, but try to have empathy for your Aspie boyfriend. Instead of saying "those NTs are jerks, and I'm not like them, because we NTs aren't all bad," say to yourself, "yes, they're jerks, but they'd never be jerks to me the same way they are to my boyfriend. I don't suffer what he suffers because these jerk NTs see me as one of them, and thus, have no problem with me."

Or that the teacher said i have to "fight my own battles" and got the same comment about bullies being victims.