Blame the NTs!

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I have a feeling close to every Aspie in here have a tendency to blame offensive posts on NT's. They seem to have this predisposition for hating NTs, and if they see a post they do not like, it MUST be an NT who wrote it.

Now that I have offended many, I guess you will judge me to be an NT aswell.

This is just a feeling I have, it could of course be the fact that it's the loudest and foulest that is being heard first, and the quiet ones are easily overlooked, and therefore the general feeling I'm left with is that everyone hates NTs.

I'm not calling YOU narrowminded, but I'm asking what has fueled this hatred for NTs?
Is it the bullying at school/job? If it is, and you judge all NTs based on that one or five people who bullied you, aren't you as bad as them for judging you in the first place?

Blaming NTs and general dislike of NTs seems to be common on here. In my experience there are good NTs and bad NTS and similarly good Aspies and bad Aspies. It isn't fair nor sensible to tar everyone with the same brush.

I think there is truth to that.

I don't hate neurotypicals...what is the point. I have been bullied and such but that is no reason to hate everyone who is neurotypical. I do not think having autism makes one immune to indulging in nasty behavior like bullying so its more an issue with people who do that sort of thing in general regardless of if they are neurotypical or not.


I think a big part of it as well though for some is they feel alienated by society, and they confuse a neurotypical brain with someone who fits into society and shuns those who don't. Not every neurotypical is that way, and not all of them fit in either.

I haven't been in this community long enough to speak about the cultural opinion of NTs, but I personally mostly can't help finding most of them just silly. =/

I try to take the high ground on the matter, though. I don't think less of them for needing their silly social dances, despite how many of them think less of me for not participating in empty social systems. It's a matter of principle and perspective. Generally speaking, the worse an individual is, the worse they've come from.

Agreed. And I've had my days when I vented on NTs. But truly, it is about rudeness, & no group has a corner on it. I've seen some astonishingly rude stuff here, & I've certainly experienced it elsewhere. And generally there's really no way to tell the neuro-status of whoever is being rude, abusive, or bullying.

I'm not sure what being neurotypical (NT) actually means... I find it a confusing term.

I suppose it can mean anyone who doesn't have aspergers, not on the autism spectrum.

By this definition, since I don't yet know if I am on the autism spectrum or not as I've not yet been fully assessed, I equally cannot say if I am NT or not yet.

Also, if the experts haven't agreed yet what exactly aspergers / autism is - which is my impression (but I may be completely wrong here), what exactly IS the opposite??? How can we define it?

I can't personally say anyone is or is not like me, as I am not sure what label I have (or if I even want a particular label). I do want an assessment but even if I do get a daignosis, I haven't decided what label if any I'm going to give myself because of it.

If diagnosed (or not diagnosed) I suppose I might say to people I am (or am not) on diagnosed with autism or aspergers or whatever the diagnosis ends up saying (if anything) if I felt they absolutely needed to know, for simplicity (e.g. especially if seeking work adaptations) but beyond that I'm not yet sure how I'll refer to myself.

I think NT is generally understood to mean those who are not significantly impaired in life by a psychological state. A lot of people on here tend to use it to mean anyone without an ASD, but deeper discussions of the term always turn up the fuller definition above.

The only time I assume someone would be NT on here is when they say things like "aspies are broken" or the like, and insist that people with AS aren't good enough the way they are, but that's more from an inability to understand projections of self-loathing, I think. I don't much care if they are NT or AS or flying monkeys, because really, what difference does it make? there are a**holes everywhere.

I don't blame NTs on my problems. I blame myself, whether it's beyond my control or not.

I think I dislike the NT world. The world that has been created by NT's, and the behaviours that NT's expect everyone to follow. And the fact that most NT's are completely ignorant of autsim and AS.

If blame for anything is to be made, then it should go onto all of humanity

I am disappointed in the way humanity has turned out, the way people have become too competitive with eachother, and that if you don't follow all these trends then you will ridiculed. I think it's pathetic. If only people realised that they are acting so pathetic when laughing at someone who's lipstick is on a teeny bit wrong or a velcro on a shoe is undone a teeny bit.

I've got my own life to focus on, I don't care what the person across the road is wearing, I don't even notice.

I'm not an NT-hater. In fact, I often have to defend them when fellow non-NTs say disparaging things about them. Sure, there are those who are undesirable, but there are non-neurotypicals who are undesirable as well. It's someone's actions that should be judged, not their brains.

Actually... I usually guess it's an ASD poster for the most part since it's a forum for people on the spectrum as much as it is their family because we seem to misunderstand things more often or be very rigid in our beliefs and often come off as mean or offensive. HOWEVER, I do blame NT's for taking offense when we're honest.

I find it impossible to judge whether or not a person has Aspergers or is an "NT" based upon message board posts alone. That and I find "Aspie" around here is more just a general term used to replace "nerd" or "geek" or whatever. People talk about meeting "Aspies" very often and I've probably met under a dozen in the entirety of my life.

Maybe I miss certain threads and posts because I don't post/read here consistently, but I seem to have noticed a resurgence of anti-NT posts, after a longer period of more balance and nuance on WrongPlanet. In particular, there was one thread that was dominated by a certain poster (I'm not going to mention names) who posted such hysterically bigoted opinions, and indeed, also branding every poster they didn't agree with as 'neurotypical', that I was "not sure if trolling or just stupid", to quote the Fry meme.

But yeah, I count myself among the posters who looks at the anti-NT posts with bemusement and also a bit of pity. Sorry, to me, generalisations are generalisations no matter which way they flow, and I consider them very harmful to the people who are targeted, as well as to the people who are on the giving end of the generalisation. Look beyond your own scope.