Different types of AS?

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I know people with aspergers syndrome who go onto do normal things like attend university, drive, get a job and have loads of friends. These people with AS are just regarded as a little strange with not great social skills.

However do you think people with AS who have learning problems and where there behaviour/symptoms are more obvious face more prejudice by neurotypical persons..... especially when it comes to finding a job etc? Again this exposes how unkind and intolerant people can be of difference.


Could it be the learning difficulties that some people with AS have that creates more problems?

I'd say there's some bias against the more disabled folk.

I mean, those who're more able with AS tend to cloud the minds of people to the possible disability of others with AS.

Just because some are more suited to societal adaptation doesn't mean all are and have that ability.

Nothing wrong with being disabled. Nothing wrong with being able either.

By more disabled do you mean the types with AS who behave more 'abnormally' or those who have social phobia, walk with a weird gait, and crippling anxiety to change? Or does there learning problems label them as more 'disabled'?

More disabled can mean any symptom or cluster of the same being severe enough to cause the inability to do things.

You see many people say such and such can do this or that and they have AS!

That's all well and good for them, but only them.

So basically those with AS who have seveare anxiety/panic disorder that stops them from doing things?

I think that could be more reasons for an aspie be severely disabled than anxiety/panic - for example, if you have a very narrow and/or non-markteble special interest, you will have more difficulty in finding a niche than if you have a more broad and/or "useful" special interest (I igine that someone interested in computers or in history will have more easiness in finding a job than someone interested in the history of the free city of Novgorod).

Lots of reasons to be disabled with AS.

The DSM-IV-TR puts it as "considerable disability" when talking about the narrow interests and social deficits, so by definition, the two core symptom clusters can cause considerable disability in the least in regards to social adaptation. Special interest leads to not being able to do anything else (or only having little time for other things), for example.

That's nothing to do with anxiety and panic.

People, especially those on the 'net, tend to fudge over the severity of AS, especially because they see someone in a TV show with it (hint: TV is fiction when it's fiction. It's sometimes fiction too when it's non-fiction ), and they also see the "high-functioning" term. That doesn't mean "high-functioning" in comparison to normal people, that's high-functioning in comparison to people who can barely function.

I completely agree with this! I have a lot of anxiety in general (no panic attacks, though)... I have some very specific interests and have a hard time deviating from those topics. Interestingly, I get very anxious about what to do or say when these types of conversations crop up before I'm even in them.
I think that social anxiety plays a big role in my life, but mainly while worrying if my interests will translate into interactions.

I think that one can fail to find work without so called behaviour problems and I think that so called challenging behaviour has been used as a vicitm-balming tool to justify aspiphobia and social injustice against Asperger syndrome people. If an AS person has someting which would be seen as quite serious as a baby such as febrile convulsions then you come to the attention of learning disability services (for people/children with an IQ below the minimum for allistic people. Then as an adult you can still be dished out a lot of aspiphobic abuse and be refuse a job at the interview stage leaving that person having to rely on social security benefits. Aspiphobia evolved out of neurobigotry against people with learning disabilities. Yet despite that allistic people expect to be given the rights to get off on dumping on AS people and some other allistics often encourage aspiphobia and use the fact that most people look like aspies as an excuse. Some of the more affected people leave school without necessary qualifications and have to go to college to be able to be employable

Where if an Asperger syndrome never had febrile convulsions as a baby then he or she will be thought of as allistic until proven otherwise and as a child attend a mainstream schools and gain some more relevant qualifications that person may end up suffering form mild,moderate severe or profound mental accelleration (IQ of over 130) and therefore have a chance to study at university to study perhaps physical, natural or computer science for example. These people would not be thought of as being on the autistic spectrum such as those that have been extremely successful in their chosen interest such as the likes of Albert Einstein or Paul Dirac. That is all ok but not ever Asperger syndrome can be a second Albert Einstein, Paul Dirac, Bob Dylan, Syd Barrett or Paul Numan.

From the social model of disability point of view the casue of anxiety and depression was caused by largely allistic people deliberately being impatient with people on the autistic spectrum and labelling their need for social accessibility for incomplete or arrested emotional delevelopment and allistic people seeing that as a lifestyle choice rather than a result of a neurological condition that has access needs. So in this case social bonding techniques have been labelled by allistic people as socially inappropriate behaviour. If an AS person has complex needs such as having either epilepsy or a psychiatric condition then there is not the necessary mental health services that actually cater for the autistic spectrum condition. Most of these would be said to by services you don't fit here which means that they never wanted to know you in the first place by repeating that when the allistic has been requested not to and wonder why they experience the backlash. How stupid can someone gets If an animal gets ill treated by humans then that animal such as a dog will become violent. If an AS person gets ill treated then he or she is rarely allowed bite back against aspiphobia because the AS person will be relegated to the lowest social status. Also allistic label AS people the most horrendous abuse and accusations of being a sex offender for having an autism spectrum conditon when we all know that sort of person has tyo have superior social skills to commit such a crime. We have a tabloid media which like to incite aspiphobia and other forms of human bigotry and lies to sell papers If an Asperger syndrome said or thought that about allistics then they would be an uproar. Allistic people like to dish abuse but can't take it but expect us Aspies to take the abuse and do nothing about it. To me it is no wonder that some aspies hate allistic people. Here in this case non violent protest will achieve nothing just us being accused of being troublemankers and if an armed struggle plays into the hands of allistic supremacists and gets on in trouble with the police

It's a spectrum. At one extreme are people who go to university and get good jobs and are just kind of odd. At the other extreme are nonverbal, extremely aloof people with severe cognitive impairment. And in between exists every possible combination of autistic traits that you could imagine.

Unfortunately, a lot of people focus on the two extremes and forget everyone in between.