Which 'Attitude of Consciousness' fits u?

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http://www.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/schema.html

thought this may interest some...especially after the sleeping habits thread....which could be a physical manifestation of a particular attitude
also the attitude towards drugs etc....seems to be very polarized... an explanation of which could be in the above schema

thoughts on aspiness related to this topic:

mystical: thinking that aspiness could be a shift back to matriarchal tendencies due to something like the 100th monkey theory sorta thing... like we have reached a point...that there is a collective mental shift to create new beings that don't dominate the earth so much etc...cos we have been doing that for a while now...and need to chill for a bit mayhap?....contemplate where we're headed n stuff...?

scientific: it could be purely genetic...and say a mixed mat+pat parentage.....could be what has the chance to create aspies. like say a left brain dominant father(mat) breeds with left brain dominant mother(pat) or a right brain dominant father(pat) breeds with right brain dominant mother(mat) as in the 'likeminded' couple Vs the right brain dominant father(pat) breeds with left brain dominant mother(pat) or left brain dominant father(mat) breeds with right brain dominant mother(mat) as in the 'opposites attract' couple

in senario 1.....you should get a majority 'feminine archetypes'

senario 2....you should get about 50% each?

ofcourse...it all depends on who visits this site aswell....senario2 could be more accurate even if the poll shows the other way...becos more of the pat types would logically fit into the world better and prolly wouldnt be searching for the right planet etc

who knows!

oh yeah..one weird thought for the road....future couples should actually be 4 people....encompassing all 4 types mentioned in senario 2..as this would be most likely to create acceptance/understanding/balance/harmony in the world .....sorta like the 4 suits in a pack of cards or something
ala Rightbrainmale=club,leftbrainmale=spade,rightbrainfemale=heart,leftbrainfemale=diamond

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Last edited by Deutha on 07 Dec 2006, 9:00 pm, edited 18 times in total.

Feminine archetype. Every time.

Either I'm not an Aspie or this idea of 'ultra-masculinity' as an AS character trait is a load of old rubbish.

i think it could be a load of rubbish too... ofcourse... if there are patriarchal aspies...then the ultra-masculine/ultra fem could be the case for them maybe?....but yeah im Feminine archetype too...

I don't know. I would say 3 to 4 in favor of masculinity. Still, I think it's crazy.

BTW what does this have to do with the sleep thread? HEY, I was hopeful BEFORE the change in sleep patterns, so it didn't have a bearing on my sleep patterns! If it did, I wouldn't have started the thread.

Steve

Last edited by SteveK on 06 Dec 2006, 6:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

why do you think it's crazy?

Matriarchal definitely.

Dancing with Dionysus in the moonlight! I'm all for a little irrationality.

Actually no ones ever equated ASDs to masculinity.

Masculinity is actually a cultural trait and set of artificial socially imposed behavioral patterns. Since most ASDers dont give a flip about the social norm Ive found they typically arent very masculine (which isnt necessarily a bad thing.. I find the "macho" personality so sickening I have to be physically restrained to keep from clawing the persons eyes out).

What they do claim though is that an ASDs mind is ultra-male. The difference here is that they are defining the genders by approaches to thought under the assumption that males typically think of things logically while females think emotionally.

In that case even though they are being insultingly sexist in their way of describing it they are indeed quite correct (if you excuse the overgeneralization).

The ASD mindset in general is more focused on logic while the NT mindset is more often than not focused primarily on thinking based on emotions.

To put it another way in order for the ASD brain to be "male" you would have to define the majority of NTs (regardless of gender) as having "female" brains.

Generally speaking the idea is sound but their way of expressing it leaves much to be desired.

everything....i tend to have the instinctual...stay up at night....sleep in the day mentality......which a lot of people in the sleep thread seem to have said... this could be a physical manifestation of preferring the: consciousness viewed as “moonlike” idea

ala nietzsche's Nightsong:
Night has come; now all fountains speak more loudly. And my soul too is a fountain.
Night has come; only now all the songs of lovers awaken. And my soul too is the song of a lover.

>>>The ASD mindset in general is more focused on logic while the NT mindset is more often than not focused primarily on thinking based on emotions.

i dunno....i am so emotional inside sometimes i hafta have a human mask of indifference on when dealing with the outside world or i'd be in tears every 5minutes... i seem to be very empathic/sensitive to things... i do seem to exhibit a high level of reasoning tho if i can keep the emotional side under wraps eheh.

anyone else feel like this?

I don't fit into that stereotype at all, then.

i MUST BE MISSING SOMETHING. I didn't read the article, I just added up the areas where I was most like. In MOST, I was EQUAL! The concious/unconcious, for example. I'm trying to get them to work in harmony together. Hey, i "dont give a flip about the social norm"! In some ways I try to fight it! I'm not crazy about alcohol, drugs, current dress, etc... I have a hard time findng shoes, because I just want go old fashioned conservative. I also wish families were more traditional.

For Psychology I voted for masculine! etc....

But HEY, who says the masculine or feminine are so clearly deliniated? On 7, perhaps as many as 4 were NEUTRAL! I was for BOTH!

Steve

Masculine, I like darkness but I tend to be very much of a rationalist.

interesting stuff....definately think things aren't so clearly cut once the conscious mind comes into it....but genetic instincts/traits may be discernable through polarizing methods etc..

the reason i say this is the conscious mind has to handle adapting u 2 society/culture etc....so it might be making you function in a particular way to survive but this may not necessarily be your natural instincts

so yeah i mean everyone would be able to posess all/any of these qualities if required to by situation....as the individual is an expression within the total, but still contains all the total....this is more of a preference/ how u tend to act given no external influences

Oh boy, more feminist propaganda that has nothing to do with reality!

Silly feminasties, "Masculinity" is determined by Nature and expressed by our societies, not the other way around.

how is this feministic? both matriarchal/patriarchal refer to both genders etc....both have women

also elaborate on what u say about masulinity & nature...nature is a very general word.....do u mean nature(earth) or human nature....or? everything in our society is a product of human imagination...

why doesn't this have anything to do with reality? in ancient greece......athens/sparta were examples of patriarchal/matriarchal seperate colonies etc... within the one country.... thats where terms like dionysian came from......observation of reality

I threw up, but just a little, and only in my mouth, when I read that link(not the post though).

To be serious, I saw the topic, was intrequed, so I clicked and read the OP and the first few replies. My eyes rolled back in my head, so I backed out.

Looked at the topic, decided I aught to be open minded, and went back in. read again, and then clicked the link, and my eyes glazed over.

Rather that being a disruptive putz, I will thank you, for you have given me an insight into a hidden aspect of Aspie Obsession. I'll make a new post on it.