Blunders you've made for being naive?

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Greentea
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21 Nov 2007, 3:10 pm

We aspies are naive, I think, in the sense that we believe what we're told (at least until we've made enough mistakes by believing that we become strongly skeptical).

I used to believe everyone who told me that "things are done this way", "one is supposed to...", "the best one can do is...".

Not anymore. Nowadays I know most people will cite the rules they want YOU to follow.

I remember when I started tutoring primary school kids, the mother wouldn't pay me, and once I asked her for the money (very nicely) and told her it was long due. She answered "you're too young to know about work rules, but one rule is that you must NEVER ask for your pay."


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21 Nov 2007, 3:29 pm

Greentea wrote:
Not anymore. Nowadays I know most people will cite the rules they want YOU to follow.


Me too; not anymore! My story isn't about rules, but it shows what being naive can do for you:

When I was in my twenties and working in a hotel reception office with a gang of supposedly mature women, they acted as if they were befriending me. They asked me to join them for lunch at the cafeteria for employees. They got there first and were all sitting down at a big table. There was an empty seat for me, so I sat down. After I sat down, they all got up and moved to another table laughing!


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21 Nov 2007, 3:33 pm

The way I see it, my job is to do the work and your job is to pay me. If I don't work, of course you won't pay me. And if you won't pay me, then I won't work.

My bos has tried to short me a few times, so I say something. Everybody else there won't do it, they're all like whoaaa......

Sometimes he doesn't have the money. Fine. He still has to acknowledge it, and pay me the next day.



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21 Nov 2007, 3:49 pm

A couple of years ago when I was in the army, a couple of reserve guys came and joined my section; I had just come in from a long run, red and sweaty. They looked at me and laughed, and said that they had a done 'x miles' earlier that morning. Given their physiques, you'd think that I'd have guessed that they were kidding me. So, given the shape they were in and that they could run so far, I went out for the rest of the week, beasting myself to cover the same mileage they supposedly done. Needless to say, they let me get on with it, until someone told me that they only went as far as the mess hall in the mornings :oops:


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21 Nov 2007, 3:52 pm

That's very much like me, giaam.

Maybe that's one of the reasons we're so persevering. We think others are doing what they say they're doing and try to live up to their words rather than their acts.


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21 Nov 2007, 4:25 pm

Yeah Giaam, I had the SAME problems. The sad part is that I have seen people that DID do stuff they claimed that seemed unreal, so sometimes logic has to be thrown out the window. Often though, they didn't.

Greentea, She was right! You must NEVER ask for your pay! She should pay BEFORE you have the need. Let her know THAT!



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21 Nov 2007, 4:30 pm

LOL that's the perfect retort!! !



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21 Nov 2007, 7:11 pm

[quote=" one rule is that you must NEVER ask for your pay."[/quote]

gasp! What a creep!

Yeah, people can lie to me with impunity. Very seldom I will get, I don't know, it's like a word from the Lord, what somebody's real name is or that someone just lied to me. But most of the time I have no idea and some people have really enjoyed punking me.
What's funny is that most people think they can always tell when someone is lying, but research has shown that is not true. Maybe it's a good thing that I know I can't tell. I won't be the one jumping all over an innocent person yelling 'I know you're lying!'



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22 Nov 2007, 5:01 am

I loaned money, not alot of money, but a little bit, to people who looking back I have no idea what I was thinking, I was so dumb, because their are alot of scumbags out their that will not pay back or owe money and will never pay, I never knew, lesson learned.


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22 Nov 2007, 8:15 am

I believed just about everything I was told as a child. My "friends" found it funny.


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22 Nov 2007, 10:14 am

I was definitely not naive. People were always telling me I was way too paranoid and that I didn't believe anything others told me. I don't think that's true. My credo is, "Trust, but verify."



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22 Nov 2007, 2:27 pm

So true! I'm always the one to get ripped off by street vendors, etc., by the way. LOL.

Also, a few years ago I had some classmates who told me to call one of them a name (it was bad) as a joke, and since they were smiling and laughing I thought it WAS a joke. But of course, as soon as I did it, they told the principal so I - the "good little girl" - would get into trouble.

Now I realize that even if you think you're reading people's expressions and moods correctly, they might have ulterior motives...



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22 Nov 2007, 6:53 pm

I got promoted at a previous workplace due to my experience but I was naive enough to start letting everyone in the company take advantage of me. People below me delegated work up to me and people above me delegated work down to me. I was too conscientious to refuse to help. At least I got the better of them in the end,taking quite a good redundancy package when the time came and leaving them all to sort out their own mess.


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22 Nov 2007, 7:04 pm

The other day when my mom and I went to the mall, we were approached by a saleswoman and I believed everything she said. We didn't buy what she was selling, but my mom later told me that the lady was really good at her job and that's why I fell for it.



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22 Nov 2007, 7:06 pm

Greentea wrote:
We aspies are naive, I think, in the sense that we believe what we're told (at least until we've made enough mistakes by believing that we become strongly skeptical).

I used to believe everyone who told me that "things are done this way", "one is supposed to...", "the best one can do is...".

Not anymore. Nowadays I know most people will cite the rules they want YOU to follow.

I remember when I started tutoring primary school kids, the mother wouldn't pay me, and once I asked her for the money (very nicely) and told her it was long due. She answered "you're too young to know about work rules, but one rule is that you must NEVER ask for your pay."


Rule #2 is that you sue the person who does not pay you for work done. You might quote that to her. :wink:



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22 Nov 2007, 7:21 pm

im naive. but nt gullible