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Oh yeah, i saw that movie! It was so @^%@# funny!
But i didn't watch the credits so i don't know that character...
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EDIT: Finished watching movie, he's definitely still AS or HFA.
I've only seen the film based on the musical (I have no idea what version your refering too), but from that and the little I do know about the original story (I say this because the following is based only on that and may be inaccurate), he seems too good at manipulating people (Christine in particular) to have AS/HFA and wouldn't having limited human contact explain the lack of other social skills and difficulty around people? The obsessiveness maybe, but the other traits don't seem too AS/HFA considering the situation.
I'm pretty sure that in the book he hasn't spent most of his life living down a hole like in the musical (I think he was an architect, but I may be wrong), but still I bet if even an NT spent six-months or so with out seeing or hardly seeing other humans they might still be uncomfortable around them. Even forgetting the isolation, considering his disfigurement he would probably have self-confidence and stigma issues.
Here are a couple passages. Some stuff is confusing like the pleebland stuff, but you can just ignore that.
After five or six months Crake loosened up a bit. He was having to work harder than at HelthWyzer High, he wrote, because there was a lot more competition. Watson-Crick was known to the students there as Asperger's U,because of the high percentage of brilliant weirdos that strolled and hopped and lurched through its corridors. Demi-autistic, genetically speaking; single-track tunnel-vision minds, a marked degree of social ineptitude -- these were not your sharp dressers -- and luckily for everyone there, a high tolerance for mildly deviant public behaviour.
"More than at HelthWyzer?" asked Jimmy.
"Compared to this place, HelthWyzer was a pleebland," Crake replied. "It was wall-to-wall NTs."
"NTs?"
"Neurotypicals."
"Meaning?"
"Minus the genius gene."
I love the refreshing way AS is portrayed. Not as a disorder but as a different, sometimes better way of thinking.
Jimmy was becoming annoyed by Crake's way of introducing him -- "This is Jimmy, the neurotypical" -- but he knew better than to show it. Still, it seemed to be like calling him a Cro-Magnon or something. Next step they'd be putting him in a cage, feeding him bananas, and poking him with electroprods.
Did the author of that have Asperger's by any chance?
Sounds like my idea of a dream (Referring to the part, I've highlighted in bold).
EDIT: Interestingly, when I first saw the Film (as in the one based of the Andrew Lloyd Webber version), I thought Raoul was the bad one for stealing Christine but then I often get the wrong end of the stick with films. . I still think that the phantom in that version isn't so bad ...apart from hanging a few people ...but then he has really bad "issues".
Last edited by Sarah on 07 Jul 2005, 2:17 pm, edited 3 times in total.
That actually sounds like quite an interesting book. I will try to purchase it when I have money.
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Malcolm from Malcolm in the Middle (and possibly Dewey too) I was watching the first episode today and it was weird how Lois thought they wanted to send Malcolm to a sped class and was talking about him being strange and all that.
And Tsukasa from .hack//sign for anyone whos seen that but that seems to somewhat be caused by the trama he experiences.
Sarah, I've read the first few chapters of the book Phantom is based on. But regardless of his isolation, he's still very gifted. Living under an opera could've caused that(giftedness), but it's still an intersting notion. I myself happen to be vey good at manipulating people, so it'd be safe to say that Aspies can do that. Once you understand how a mind works, it can be rather fun toying with it.
Same here, Raoul was a self-absorbed prick IMHO. Hated him, even after Phantom went insane. Needless to say, my Musical Theatre was disturbed by the fact that I sided with Phantom the whole movie.
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Malcom defanitely isn't. He's a socially needy genius with stereotypical Middle School nerdy angst. Dewey could be savant though.
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- from Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon
Lawrence Pritchard Waterhouse, socially inept codebreaker genious who helps end WW2 and assists Alan Turring with the first computer.
Bobby Shaftoe, socially inept Marine/Spec Ops bad ass who gets the missions from Waterhouse's codebreaking efforts.
Honorable mention for Stephenson's interpretation of General Macarthur
One of my top 5 books of all time.
Also Ender Wiggen, Bean and most of the other kids from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
Also in my Top 5.
And Tsukasa from .hack//sign for anyone whos seen that but that seems to somewhat be caused by the trama he experiences.
Malcolm in the Middle Malcolm definatley not. He has way too much luck with relationships. Dewey, however could possibly be autistic. But he may not be that autistic.
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THOUGHT IT WAS THE 4TH OF JULY.
I WOKE UP AND THEN I REALISED,
I WAS NOT WHAT I HAD ALWAYS TRIED TO EMULATE.
INSTEAD A SHADOW OF FORMER GLORY.
AND THEN I CRIED.
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