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26 Mar 2005, 4:03 pm

true that we miss the stims but, i don't know....she has 'the look and feel' :wink:

for example: when she's asked a question about the material they often setup, you can see that she's embarrassed and she has to think about how she will answer, her answer is full of detail but often in the wrong order, we can often see that she just doesn't know how to 'get out off there'. Declan often 'help' her with a 3 words simple answer.

Doesn't it sound familliar !?



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26 Mar 2005, 4:12 pm

I only saw one episode so it would not have been enough to see it. Nevertheless, I would like to say that the fact that she has to think about how to answer a question and the fact that she answers as you explained is also a characteristic of gifted people without Asperger. And a characteristic of Asperger's too. How often have I said or thought, so far, "Wait a minute. I need to organize my thoughts." before answering a question ?
But your argument is right. She is not very social either.


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26 Mar 2005, 6:01 pm

Though I doubt many of you will have read it, Korendir from The Master of Whitestorm (Janny Wurts) is almost definately on the spectrum. And Amelie from 'Amelie' is definately too, though they rationaled her AS aspects as being due to being friendless in childhood. Her boyfriend has some AS traits too.



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27 Mar 2005, 10:05 am

The new Dr Who behaves like an aspie!



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27 Mar 2005, 7:17 pm

OMG LOL i actually though TafKash was Takfish too :oops:

Im not dyslexic either ! :lol:

Anway, Id say Sakaki-san from Azumanga diaoh.

I did think Daria at one point, but i think shes just a nerd. Same as Lisa Simpson.

But i agree its hard to decide who is an aspie without going into generalisations.



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28 Mar 2005, 10:50 pm

I just watch 'Amelie'. At the end, i pressed rewind and i pressed play again :D don't take me wrong, i loved the movie but i think her father looks very more Aspie then her. I doubt she is AS. She has been isolated when young and that could explain a lot of the special things she got in her head (even if i related to a lot of it :wink: ).

But now that she decides to go ahead with socialising, she got it right.

Each and every time i thought of a plan for making something happened and one step of it involved a predicted human reaction on wich the rest of the plan counts, it failed. I never ever were able to predict how someone would react to something. And each time i tried, i goofed lamentably.

That's why i think she is not AS. I would very like to have your toughts on this ?



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29 Mar 2005, 4:25 am

Regarding Amelie, you should discount the explanations offered up by the movie as to reasons why she is the way she is, and base your opinion over how she acts.

If you were brought up isolated, how much of your antisocial tendencies would be attributed to your upbringing rather than your AS? I would suggest her heart beating fast was not because she wanted her father to touch her, but because she didn't. Does your heart beat faster when someone touches you? Mine does.
Her father's more severe AS traits adds more credence to the possibility that Amelie is too, rather than discounting it.
She has some tactile differences: Putting her hand in grain feels good and relaxing.
She has some perseverations and stims: Skimming rocks, and collecting rocks to skim. Cracking creme brule.
Language problems: She never really spoke much early in the film. She got yelled at and just stood standing blank. She simply screamed whenever the fish got out of the tank. A problem with communication?

Her expectations of how others would react was very bad too. It just so happened that almost everyone around her were very atypical. She developed a perseveration for helping people. She acted very egocentrically when fulfilling this perseveration.
When Princess Diana died, she switched off the television to look at a cracked tile. Her interest in things is more than her interest in people.



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29 Mar 2005, 7:22 pm

How 'bout Chloe from 24? she is very akward dealing with people, is really intensely into computers, and generally struck me as having AS.



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30 Mar 2005, 1:41 am

Amelie..... Today i brought back the tape to one video club, and got the DVD at another club so i just finished my 4th viewing :oops: Some movie do that to me (start a marathon) 8O

I changed my mind each time :? I think my problem is that, again, i put this in black and white (i wonder why :wink: ) : she as it or she doesn't has it ! It IS in fact more complicated than this.

It's true that she shows a lot of signs, even some that you mention and that i didn't noticed on first time like when she turned off the TV on Diana's news because of that tile. It felt so natural for me, i would have done the same thing :twisted:


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I would suggest her heart beating fast was not because she wanted her father to touch her, but because she didn't. Does your heart beat faster when someone touches you? Mine does.


It's true too that my hearth beats faster when someone touches me (and in a lot more other situation though). Viewed on this angle, it makes sense.


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Her father's more severe AS traits adds more credence to the possibility that Amelie is too, rather than discounting it.


I totally agree, i just said that her father looks more Aspie than her to me,.... at first :wink:


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She has some tactile differences: Putting her hand in grain feels good and relaxing.
She has some perseverations and stims: Skimming rocks, and collecting rocks to skim. Cracking creme brule.


That kinds of things counts ? I may myself be more Aspie than i first tought 8O


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Her expectations of how others would react was very bad too. It just so happened that almost everyone around her were very atypical.


She was able to make a match. I don't know for other Aspie, but for me, this is way beyond my abilities with poeple :roll:


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She developed a perseveration for helping people. She acted very egocentrically when fulfilling this perseveration.


Egocentrically ? Are you talking about when she imagine all the world crying for her death ? She would be doing that (helping poeple) just for collecting the merit ?


The scene when she is at the movie is also very aspie, she likes to spot the little detail that nobody will ever see and she likes to look at other's faces :D


After all those viewing and re-reading of posts, only one things still bugs me from the beginning : the dialogs. I find that she 'do a very good job' when dialoging with others. She knows how to make them talks, she knows what to answer, even to metaphor, and she knows how to politly 'fill the blank' without saying something stupid. Again, i don't know for other Aspies but she has far better conversation skills than me :(



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30 Mar 2005, 10:30 pm

Jane Eyre.



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27 Apr 2005, 9:20 pm

Dudley Do-Right



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28 Apr 2005, 1:17 am

Mr Bean may have Asperger's. So does Daniel Stardy (from my book).


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28 Apr 2005, 10:28 am

I think that Reginald Barclay (Star Trek TNG) is a classic case. He is a character who is a LOT like the real-life me in many regards.

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28 Apr 2005, 3:00 pm

What about Spoc? Some say he and the Vulcans could possibly have AS.


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28 Apr 2005, 4:34 pm

All vulcans have AS.... Thats the whole point of them



And so do several charicters in my books, althogught thats no supprise, as they are based on me and my freinds.......



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29 Apr 2005, 12:35 am

The Romulans do not though. It is hilarious. The Vulcans are logical and good and have AS while the Romulans are the complete opposite.


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