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20 Sep 2012, 10:59 am

my usual bedtime is 5 - 6 am dam u aspergers..



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20 Sep 2012, 11:14 am

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my usual bedtime is 5 - 6 am dam u asoergers..


:lol: Yeah......my sleep is majorly screwed up too...... just can't put down my book and go to bed.....and then when I finally do can't turn down my thoughts/daydreams and go to sleep!



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20 Sep 2012, 11:27 am

Same here with the 5-6 am thing. Right now I feel exhausted because I fell asleep at around 5 and woke back up at 10:30 am and can't get back to sleep but am so tired I can't get anything done.


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20 Sep 2012, 11:36 am

yeah lol its so annoying, its as if i feel more comfortable going to sleep just when the suns about to come up.



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20 Sep 2012, 11:54 am

Anxiety won`t let you sleep, lack of sleep makes you anxious :P



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20 Sep 2012, 2:37 pm

i use 1/2 tsp of powdered ginger in a cup of sweetened warm milk (or water if i'm trying to save on calories).



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20 Sep 2012, 4:20 pm

Ginger, huh? Sounds kind of delicious, actually. And I think the milk works better. Something about milk is supposed to make you more sleepy. I forget what...

Anyway, I use melatonin (dietary supplement, shown some promise as a treatment for jet lag). It's pretty safe and can be got over the counter, but ask your doctor if you're taking other meds, just in case. It helps.

Some of my problem is just getting myself away from whatever I'm doing and into bed. Not much trouble sleeping after that, if I can get comfortable and it's not noisy. If I have an erratic bedtime for several days, though, my sleep cycle goes whacky and I can't tell when I'm going to be tired. Thus the melatonin--I'm basically on permanent jet lag if I don't watch out, so each night I "reset" my internal clock that way. I asked my psychiatrist whether she thought melatonin was OK long-term, and she figures it's safe. Certainly safer than many of the prescription sleep aids. Melatonin is a hormone that occurs in your own body, and the toxic dose is huge. I think you'd probably have to munch a couple of bottles of the stuff down to get into any danger.

Though if warm milk works for you, use that. Unless you're lactose intolerant, naturally. Milk is a common food and probably safer than practically any medication, over-the-counter, herbal, or otherwise.

I also recommend learning relaxation techniques, the sort where you deliberately relax your muscles and reduce anxiety and that alert, awake state of mind that's so hard to get to sleep from. Self-awareness goes a long way.


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20 Sep 2012, 4:44 pm

Callista wrote:
Ginger, huh? Sounds kind of delicious, actually. And I think the milk works better. Something about milk is supposed to make you more sleepy. I forget what...

Anyway, I use melatonin (dietary supplement, shown some promise as a treatment for jet lag). It's pretty safe and can be got over the counter, but ask your doctor if you're taking other meds, just in case. It helps.

Some of my problem is just getting myself away from whatever I'm doing and into bed. Not much trouble sleeping after that, if I can get comfortable and it's not noisy. If I have an erratic bedtime for several days, though, my sleep cycle goes whacky and I can't tell when I'm going to be tired. Thus the melatonin--I'm basically on permanent jet lag if I don't watch out, so each night I "reset" my internal clock that way. I asked my psychiatrist whether she thought melatonin was OK long-term, and she figures it's safe. Certainly safer than many of the prescription sleep aids. Melatonin is a hormone that occurs in your own body, and the toxic dose is huge. I think you'd probably have to munch a couple of bottles of the stuff down to get into any danger.

Though if warm milk works for you, use that. Unless you're lactose intolerant, naturally. Milk is a common food and probably safer than practically any medication, over-the-counter, herbal, or otherwise.

I also recommend learning relaxation techniques, the sort where you deliberately relax your muscles and reduce anxiety and that alert, awake state of mind that's so hard to get to sleep from. Self-awareness goes a long way.


Melatonin works for me to too to a certain extent. I still have big problems sleeping.....but it's easier to fall asleep with the melatonin. Drinking warm milk or "sleepy time" tea which is an herbal tea blend they sell in the grocery store near me or chamomile tea before bed helps too. Sometimes I put honey in the tea.....honey has a soporific effect like warm milk....and apparently so does lettuce. Warm milk has tryptophan.........carbohydrates have this too. This helps your brain make neurotransmitters which help you sleep better at night.



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20 Sep 2012, 4:56 pm

Why we have to put the blame always on asperger's for all the small things :roll:
I know lots of guys who stay awake all the night. So is that really asperger's or just an internet/entertainment addiction?
I hate how this whole asperger's thing has became almost fashion amongst many individuals. Must be Einstein's fault for being so cool :evil:

Just sayin'


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20 Sep 2012, 7:30 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
Why we have to put the blame always on asperger's for all the small things :roll:
I know lots of guys who stay awake all the night. So is that really asperger's or just an internet/entertainment addiction?
I hate how this whole asperger's thing has became almost fashion amongst many individuals. Must be Einstein's fault for being so cool :evil:

Just sayin'


I wouldn't say this is a small thing, it causes big problems. It is common to have sleep problems, but there are many different causes, I have heard Aspergers can be one of them. If you have the diagnosis, and have chronic sleep problems, it should be important to do something in accordance to Aspergers and not rigdly follow any other common cause's solution.

The fashion part sounds scary. I haven't noticed anything of that. But I wouldn't think that Asperger's is a pseudo diagnosis that everyone who want to can get.(?!)



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20 Sep 2012, 11:12 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
Why we have to put the blame always on asperger's for all the small things :roll:
I know lots of guys who stay awake all the night. So is that really asperger's or just an internet/entertainment addiction?
I hate how this whole asperger's thing has became almost fashion amongst many individuals. Must be Einstein's fault for being so cool :evil:

Just sayin'


Well if your like me and at 2am your thinking about trying to make a time machine or trying to figure out how to create a ufo then you will find it very hard to go to sleep. And this happens all the time my mind never rests, now go ask a ''normal'' person if they think alot before sleep? they will call me weird.. it really is the aspergers.



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21 Sep 2012, 12:56 am

Australia wrote:
AnotherKind wrote:
Why we have to put the blame always on asperger's for all the small things :roll:
I know lots of guys who stay awake all the night. So is that really asperger's or just an internet/entertainment addiction?
I hate how this whole asperger's thing has became almost fashion amongst many individuals. Must be Einstein's fault for being so cool :evil:

Just sayin'


Well if your like me and at 2am your thinking about trying to make a time machine or trying to figure out how to create a ufo then you will find it very hard to go to sleep. And this happens all the time my mind never rests, now go ask a ''normal'' person if they think alot before sleep? they will call me weird.. it really is the aspergers.


I do the same sorts of things too. However, I also sit up and worry about my life and what I did wrong that day and why my life hasn't/isn't going as well as it should. Plus, I will sit up researching and planning projects I want to build and so the internet becomes the antidote to sleep. :lol:


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21 Sep 2012, 5:20 am

Australia wrote:
my usual bedtime is 5 - 6 am dam u aspergers..


I'd assume people of fitness would be knackered from working out :o I know I am, I sleep like the dead.



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21 Sep 2012, 5:29 am

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Australia wrote:
my usual bedtime is 5 - 6 am dam u aspergers..


I'd assume people of fitness would be knackered from working out :o I know I am, I sleep like the dead.


actually if i work out hard at lets say 9am to 11am i wont sleep that night till around 6am. ive always had this problem i think it might be to much testosterone. of course it helps me lift alot in the gym though (:



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21 Sep 2012, 5:32 am

Australia wrote:
BlackDwarf wrote:
Australia wrote:
my usual bedtime is 5 - 6 am dam u aspergers..


I'd assume people of fitness would be knackered from working out :o I know I am, I sleep like the dead.


actually if i work out hard at lets say 9am to 11am i wont sleep that night till around 6am. ive always had this problem i think it might be to much testosterone. of course it helps me lift alot in the gym though (:


That's make sense, which means I lack it :/