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20 Sep 2012, 7:34 pm

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20 Sep 2012, 8:48 pm

So instead of weeding out the disabled, (insert race here), (insert sex here) etc they want to weed out the introverted. I guess they got bored with the first type of discrimination and decided to move onto the next thing they can discriminate against.

I have taken several of those types of personality tests before back in my job hunting days and it was completely obvious that the goal was to weed out introverts. Employers want extrovert social puppet masters who will fit right into their ass kissing cliques.



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20 Sep 2012, 10:35 pm

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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/meet-boss ... 00184.html

" . . . By putting applicants through a battery of tests and then tracking their job performance, Evolv has developed a model for the ideal call-center worker. The data say that person lives near the job, has reliable transportation and uses one or more social networks, but not more than four. He or she tends not to be overly inquisitive or empathetic, but is creative. . . "


And all this to work in a call center. :?



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20 Sep 2012, 10:45 pm

AardvarkGoodSwimmer wrote:
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/meet-boss ... 00184.html

" . . . By putting applicants through a battery of tests and then tracking their job performance, Evolv has developed a model for the ideal call-center worker. The data say that person lives near the job, has reliable transportation and uses one or more social networks, but not more than four. He or she tends not to be overly inquisitive or empathetic, but is creative. . . "


And all this to work in a call center. :?


Bring out the beer because we're f****d.:P



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20 Sep 2012, 10:46 pm

The better jobs are less likely to use this nonsense. Besides being less authoritarian, having more meaningful work, etc.

Personally, I'm way into writing, but that's a long shot with a lot of luck factors and a lot of external factors.

I like the idea of thinking in terms of both high probability jobs and high potential payoff jobs, and maybe getting two things going at once.



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21 Sep 2012, 3:45 am

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He or she tends not to be overly inquisitive or empathetic, but is creative.


Surely being inquisitive and creative are mutually inclusive.

People who work in HR tend to have neither quality, that's why they come up with nonsense like this.



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21 Sep 2012, 4:12 am

Personally, I know some NTs who have fudged their answers to the Big Five Personality Test so that their peers will view them in a positive light. I suspect that one NT, who seems like an ESTJ to me, might have fudged her answers to the MBTI Test because that test typed her as an INFP. To me, being INFP is like being the very opposite of being an ESTJ. If she fudged her answers, she might have done so because she didn't want to be labelled as the one and only ESTJ among her friends.



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21 Sep 2012, 7:18 am

whalewatcher wrote:
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He or she tends not to be overly inquisitive or empathetic, but is creative.


Surely being inquisitive and creative are mutually inclusive.

People who work in HR tend to have neither quality, that's why they come up with nonsense like this.


This is what I am thinking as well whalewatcher. Do they have different definitions then we do of inquisitive and creative?



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21 Sep 2012, 8:29 am

Don't want people to ask questions about what they're doing, especially the policies of the call center! :P



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21 Sep 2012, 11:41 am

The beauty for the bosses of NAIRU - Non-Accelerating Inflation Rate of Unemployment - justifying the deliberately-created Reserve Army of Labour since 1979.



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21 Sep 2012, 7:01 pm

And NAIRU should not be merely blithely accepted as something which justifies the status quo (which as you point out is accepted and in fact actively promoted by those who do benefit from the status quo!).

We should go ahead and take a deep breath and ask, Is some unemployment really 'necessary' for a modern economy, and might there be better alternatives?



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21 Sep 2012, 7:15 pm

Hmm, most of these things I have taken have been designed to weed out Dishonesty & Theft. All have been based on the MMPI.
A test I know inside & out! :)

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21 Sep 2012, 9:42 pm

I can see why they do it. I think it makes sense for these kind of "bulk hiring" jobs where you are hiring hundreds (or thousands) of people to do the same work, which is simple enough and common enough that pretty much anyone can be trained to do it. The candidates can't really differentiate themselves in any way other than "I'll stick around for longer", which is what they're specifically looking for, and analysing data to predict that is a valid approach. It wouldn't be valid for more specialised or more individual jobs. Just because most people who do job X have trait Y does not mean trait Y makes for a good candidate for job X. By using that approach you're potentially screening out good candidates - but that's not a problem for call centre jobs where the pool of candidate is large.