Page 1 of 1 [ 11 posts ] 

thechadmaster
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,126
Location: On The Road...Somewhere

22 Oct 2012, 5:57 pm

I would like to add, as a corrolary to my Failed Person thread:

What happens when a person does not fit in in any situation? From the moment I wake up until the moment I go to bed, i am getting chewed out for something. Every job Ive held has not been a good fit, I lack the skills to obtain more skills to get a better job. My mother is on me about cleaning the house, im 25 and she is about to make a chore list. I work six days a week, the last thing i want to do on sunday is clean, my boss is on me about keeping the store clean all week. Clutter and messiness does not bother me like it does her.

I have customers call me a ret*d daily. Employment laws state that employers must protect their employees from harassment and hostility on the job, including that from customers, yet every employer sides with the customer, no matter how outrageous. I had to explain to someone why we could not put wider tires on his vehicle because of motor vehicle laws, he told me i was full of {fecal matter}. Instead of protection from bullies, im told that its something i have to get used to. Tell me, if i were rude to customers, would they just "get used to it"? I think not. Why is it when I go to work, I have to check my human rights at the door?

Even in my dreams, there is no escape. What does a person do when there is no place for him in society?


_________________
I don't know what the future holds, but I know Who holds the future.


redrobin62
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 2 Apr 2012
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,009
Location: Seattle, WA

22 Oct 2012, 6:19 pm

I can't speak for you, but for me, there's alcohol. Yeah, I know, it's not a cure, but sometimes it's exactly what I need to dull the pain. BTW, here's a song dedicated to how you feel.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSo-_TavE1U[/youtube]



androbot2084
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Mar 2011
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 3,447

22 Oct 2012, 6:29 pm

One has to ask the question "How can any reasonable person fit in any group without parking his integrity at the door? "
I go to church and I don't fit in because all I see is a bunch of Ebenezer Scrooge misers who are big into their conservative politics and have no heart for the poor. The commies don't like me because I am too religious. The only time I ever fit into a group is when I lied about my beliefs and that worked great but I couldn't live with myself for being a phony. I didn't fit into a free love group because I told everyone that they had to be virgins to get into the utopia.



Si_82
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 525
Location: Newcastle, UK

22 Oct 2012, 6:42 pm

Does your employer know about your asperger's diagnosis? In a perfect world it should not make a difference but the fact you are being discriminated against because of a recognised neurological disability might be the imputus they need to take it seriously.

Alternatively, if I was being called 'ret*d' day after day I would be tempted to reply with something along the lines of 'Well, actually I have a neurological condition which causes an atypical synaptical realtionship between specific cranial regions...but by all means, let's just call it retardation if it makes it easier for you to understand." Then again, I am an argumentative smartass, lol. I would probably weigh that one up based on how likely they are to punch you.

As for living with your folks, I moved out of home at 18 for uni and last time I was back for any significant length of time it drove me mad for almost identical reasons so I reccomend putting all your efforts into getting a place of your own if possible. Have you any friends you could houseshare with or anything like that?

I have never really fit in and always felt the outsider. I get the impression this is unfortunately something aspies such as ourselves may have to come to terms with. At university I spent a year as president of the Rock Music Society...and still somehow felt a bit like the outsider, lol. I think it can give you a unique perspective sometimes to be honest but it can be hard.


_________________
AQ46, EQ9, FQ20, SQ50
RAADS-R: 181 (Language: 9, Social: 97, Sensory/Motor: 37, Interests: 36)
Aspie Quiz: AS129, NT80
Alexithymia: 137


thechadmaster
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 13 Feb 2005
Age: 39
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,126
Location: On The Road...Somewhere

22 Oct 2012, 6:58 pm

Si_82 wrote:
Does your employer know about your asperger's diagnosis? In a perfect world it should not make a difference but the fact you are being discriminated against because of a recognised neurological disability might be the imputus they need to take it seriously.


No, i work in the automotive parts and service business. A heavily NT business. The worst aspects of high pressure sales and compromised integrity rolled together. I had no idea how bad it would be going into it, my experience is in convenience store management. There is no point in disclosing my AS as there is no "reasonable accomodation" that could be made for me.

At least in the USA, the person who makes the claim is charged with providing proof. The only documentation of my having Aspergers is from 1997 and 2003, when I was evaluated in school. My AS also falls on the mild side, although it was moderate to severe when I was younger. My "proof" likely would not be accepted. Also, because of my income, i do not qualify for medicaid or other assistance. Even if my boss wanted a current doctor's statement, I cannot afford to pay to be evaluated, nor would I want the stigma associated with welfare.

To Redrobin62: alcohol does diddly squat for me.


_________________
I don't know what the future holds, but I know Who holds the future.


trappedinhell
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 14 May 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Male
Posts: 625
Location: Scotland

22 Oct 2012, 7:37 pm

This is the only group where I fit. though I have a good family, and I'm lucky to have a good job (minimum wage, but nice people and easy). I honestly think that most problems, including this one, are economic. If the economy was better then you could just get a better job, and that would change how you feel about life. But as it is, all you can do is remind yourself that it isn't your fault. I'm sure that if you had a job you liked you'd be better at it and feel happier and want to do more. But I had a job that involved selling once and it's soul destroying. Like being paid to lie. This is not right!


_________________
No longer trapped in hell. Well, not in the lower levels of hell. But I cannot change my username.


Si_82
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Sep 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 525
Location: Newcastle, UK

22 Oct 2012, 9:40 pm

thechadmaster wrote:
Si_82 wrote:
Does your employer know about your asperger's diagnosis? In a perfect world it should not make a difference but the fact you are being discriminated against because of a recognised neurological disability might be the imputus they need to take it seriously.


No, i work in the automotive parts and service business. A heavily NT business. The worst aspects of high pressure sales and compromised integrity rolled together. I had no idea how bad it would be going into it, my experience is in convenience store management. There is no point in disclosing my AS as there is no "reasonable accomodation" that could be made for me.

At least in the USA, the person who makes the claim is charged with providing proof. The only documentation of my having Aspergers is from 1997 and 2003, when I was evaluated in school. My AS also falls on the mild side, although it was moderate to severe when I was younger. My "proof" likely would not be accepted. Also, because of my income, i do not qualify for medicaid or other assistance. Even if my boss wanted a current doctor's statement, I cannot afford to pay to be evaluated, nor would I want the stigma associated with welfare.


Maybe I am being a bit optomistic since I dont even have the diagnosis yet and only know the UK not the US but, I would have thought that, since AS is, by definition, lifelong and technically a disability, you would have to have it accepted as 'proof' if you have a legitimate diagnosis? Even if you think of yourself as having a 'mild' case, the diagnostic criteria takes into account that it affects you to a degree that causes you tangeable problems? I am sure others will know the score a lot better than I but I thought one of the only benefits of getting diagnosed was being able to proove that you had a disibility for the porposes of work? I suppose the whole area of 'reasonable accomodations' is a different matter though and I could see how that might be more problematic in some jobs than others.


_________________
AQ46, EQ9, FQ20, SQ50
RAADS-R: 181 (Language: 9, Social: 97, Sensory/Motor: 37, Interests: 36)
Aspie Quiz: AS129, NT80
Alexithymia: 137


Jaden
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 May 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,867

22 Oct 2012, 11:48 pm

well, I personally don't fit in anywhere either (even here on Wrongplanet), I just mainly drift in the void between worlds. My biggest issue is, nobody wants to actually take the time to get to know me properly, they'd rather make wild assumptions based on their opinions and try passing that as fact. Honestly, I've been called many names, the word "ret*d" is like a kitten's purr compared to what people have called me, and I honestly can't say I have even the slightest interest in bothering with "normal" society because of my bad experiences with "normal" people.


_________________
Writer. Author.


emimeni
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2012
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,065
Location: In my bed, on my laptop

23 Oct 2012, 7:58 pm

Jaden wrote:
well, I personally don't fit in anywhere either (even here on Wrongplanet), I just mainly drift in the void between worlds. My biggest issue is, nobody wants to actually take the time to get to know me properly, they'd rather make wild assumptions based on their opinions and try passing that as fact. Honestly, I've been called many names, the word "ret*d" is like a kitten's purr compared to what people have called me, and I honestly can't say I have even the slightest interest in bothering with "normal" society because of my bad experiences with "normal" people.


You know, I can really relate to this post.

I don't fit in anywhere except here. For one thing, there are a lot of people who come here. If somebody doesn't like me, it's quite likely someone else will. Also, I can relate to many of the struggles people express on Wrong Planet.


_________________
Living with one neurodevelopmental disability which has earned me a few diagnosis'


jk1
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 30 Sep 2012
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,817

23 Oct 2012, 8:36 pm

I can understand the difficulty you are going through. I've been living like that myself all my life. I never fit in anywhere. But it doesn't mean there is no place for you in society. All those idiots that call you ret*d or whatever shouldn't mean anything to you because they are just rubbish. Yet, I understand being abused hurts and is very stressful.

I suggest you find a different career path. The field that you are in doesn't sound like where people like you (or me) should be in because you surely will come across many abusive people in it. It takes a lot of effort, but you can learn some skill such as IT or something. I think you will have a much better life in that way.



richardbenson
Xfractor Card #351
Xfractor Card #351

User avatar

Joined: 30 Oct 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,553
Location: Leave only a footprint behind

23 Oct 2012, 10:23 pm

goodluck to you man. I cant fit in anwhere either, :?