Anybody that was in an assessment company for a job?

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09 Oct 2012, 5:06 pm

These companies are specialised in finding out what is wrong with you.

I'd rather get that new job, which is really fitting to me much better than the old one.

Before I get some question and don't know how to answer that or answer it wrongly,
is there anybody that was in such a company and got weird questions (aspie-weird)?

I just hope that they won't find out about my AS. That would be pretty bad.
An then I think I have OCD related problems. Just found that out. Really bad, too, if they would spot that.

At least they'll send me instructions, how to prepare for that tests.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:57 pm

I would love to infiltrate such company and say ha, you got duped.



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10 Oct 2012, 6:50 am

Vomelche wrote:
I would love to infiltrate such company and say ha, you got duped.


They'll going to kill me... ;-) :-(((

Test that I'll have to do as a "small homework tasks" before

M@ TRIGM@ (@ is A, remove space)

EQ 2.0 test

HÅG@N HPEII and HADES (remove Å and put O, PE by P, II by I, HA by H, DE by D)

(Let's see if google is going to decipher this)

now that is really scary. Alone the EQ test.

And then they'd rather know all about your private life.

I really could easily "screw" these/ score so badly on those that I wouldn't get that job no matter how much more other qualifying arguments there would be.

Maybe I'll do lot of EQ tests before doing these tasks.

Nothing against fair evaluation of your capabilities. But aspies are hardly going to get any fair assessment based on those.
I feel they'd just drop out although really reflecting about their own personality and trying to change things.

Let's see.

I have some idea related to the infiltration:
Could be interesting to make a fake job application and post every single question into a chat, choosing together the worst possible answer.
That would really make the interviewer feel weird if you then would be totally opposite person of that appearing at the interview.
(They'd probably have to tell:Test could not give reliable results :lol:)

BTW, how do they evaluate psychologists? Even an aspie psychologist should score well in those, choosing always the right answer



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10 Oct 2012, 6:56 am

and then

people with manipulating character will score very well, as well because they'd abuse people on those.

Really good to have those in a company to kick out all the weak people that don't belong there ... :lol:
(and making trouble with the others, that'll detect this manipulating behaviour and feel attacked)



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13 Oct 2012, 8:26 am

OK the first one is an intelligence test I guess. Some patterns and such. I can even do it in German.
Let's see what it is about. Drinking already some Coke.
Only 40 minutes time for 35 tasks.

Cannot take pictures, otherwise I would

Hoping that the translation is good. But Swedish to German is not a disaster, usually.
Or at least native Swedish get it quite easily right.
Wish me luck.



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13 Oct 2012, 9:12 am

OK now that is done. Really stressy. Copied some pictures though. :-))

Didn't go too well. I like patterns but somehow I took too much time to be sure?
And then at the end it was hard to focus and I got also upset,
because it was really easy at the beginning

Next one. I'll take the f*****g EQ now. Let's hope it goes that well as the web test I absolved quite recently.



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13 Oct 2012, 10:00 am

Now the EQ test done.

Actually it was quite boring, because a lot of questions were repeated with slight nuances

At least no really difficult questions. Or such that are intrusive. Much easier than I thought



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13 Oct 2012, 11:00 am

This other test was neither invasive and also that kind of EQ test.
And no questions that would be a problem for aspies, really. No pictures like what does this person feel kind of stuff.

Actually I am more positive about the whole thing than what I would have thought.

I should have the right to see my results. Would be interesting to know...
If it is a serious company they should give me also a paper about my assessment.

They have to I guess if I ask. So it would be a sign of good will if they'd just give it to everybody.
Maybe it is just a fake that they make this test so easy.

And then they'd use small nuances to detect whatever they think is negative.
In the net the companies that made these tests,
always made the advertisement that they'd especially lower the risk taking in wrong people.

Nice impression. And eventually I am the only one that does the test.
Everybody that is employed does this test, so that would mean they are hardly after positive aspects of your personality.
The first test however was only to test your abilities (recognizing patterns) so this could be also positive, I guess.



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15 Oct 2012, 7:31 am

Ok, now my results of my tests. And of the assessment with the psychologist:

M@ TRIGM@ (@ is A, remove space)

Pattern test. Usually people don't get it until the end. Really stupid that I took screenshots, because that went from my time :lol:
Little bit dissapointed about my results which were 6 out of 10 and something like only 1 sigma above average.
Would have expected to score better.
This test however puts quite a lot stress so maybe therefore the results were still quite good.

EQ 2.0 test
I don't get it, but here I scored even above 100 which is better than average(100 is average).
It is not really an Emotional intelligence test, however.
One of my key strengths were self awareness(or something like that) with 117 which is quite high


HÅG@N HPEII (This is a working skill test if I figured out right)

Here I was in all quite below 50 (0-100), actually quite off. Which means I am different than others. Well, definitely.
Don't know whether being close to 100 is that good either.
Most of the numbers were 20-40

HADES (This is the risk test)

I had 4 which were close to 100. That is considered a risk. Stress, imagination (or creativity) and two others.

Then before that we were talking about my qualifications for this particular work.
Everything that would be normally in a job interview (personal strengths and weaknesses, etc.) were brought up here.
You had to explain yourself pretty much. That wasn't really difficult if you'd know what you want and how you relate to your "coming working place".

When we were going through the test results that wasn't that difficult, either. Though sometimes I let fall words or impressions were the psychologist was really surprised, sort of negatively, because he thought I was different.
A lot of things I was able to a little bend backwards, but I think I still left a strange impression on some of those.

All the talks from the side of the psychologist were merely positive. Not a single negative word.
That's a little fake, I think.

Otherwise it seemed constructive and really about finding out who you are.
So faking to be somebody that you aren't ain't a good idea

They'd however not exactly show how they perceived you, they'd just show that they try to understand your perspective.
They'll play a game
And they won't give you the test results with the numbers, however, I'll get a text with some conclusions. Maybe they'll use some secret language there
Let's see. How that will be, I don't know yet.


I think I'll report that here later, when I got it.

Otherwise our talk was really honest and fair. So in principle really how you would wish to be professional
(Some people however are trapped in some idea that you should always try to fool people. This was not the case here)

Would not be the first time that I don't understand quite why things are done. I feel this a little decoupled because I cannot see the total impact of my personality on the work.
Then, that creativity/imagination can be seen also as a risk was totally strange to me.



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15 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

I guess I can forget it, even if I was the only one chosen for that assessment. They'd rethink about other candidates.

20-40 in the HÅG@N HPEII is all below 50 and quite many below average (average is 35-65)
then they'd get very easy to read not to employ.
4 risks plus all below 50 is pretty bad.

I knew it must have been bad. Just this feeling that something was wrong. They'd be trained to lie you in the face.
This is quite sneaky.

And this guy was just not saying anything about the ratings of these numbers.

just google for HÅG@N HPEII (remove Å and put O, PE by P, II by I, HA by H, DE by D) and look for the advertisements videos.
This is so f****d up.

BTW careful guys when you answer any emotional intelligence tests in the net, they might ask if you're an aspie. Dont cross anything there, because then they'd figure out how to make aspies reveal themselves. They don't want to help you. They want to get rid of you in any kinds of jobs.

Well, there is still some hope. Maybe that guy has some brain and does not take these reports too seriously. Let's see.
Maybe they don't have any choice anyway, because I know they need people ...



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25 Oct 2012, 12:56 pm

It seems they saw my results as normal enough that I could get that job.
And I think that I left a good impression with my self-awareness in the personal interview.

The common researcher at universities seems to have some properties that could explain the risks I was talking about.

Now I just have to pass the medical test.

So, for all that go for such an assessment: Try to show that you are thinking about yourself and that you have control over your issues.

I don't know though, when they will be able to detect AS(D). Then things will change most certainly and you'll get the stamp...
And that will happen before AS(D) will be accepted as something more "normal" with a lot of potential into certain jobs.

My evaluation I think has been quite fair in the sense that they'd not go for stamps but they'll try to evaluate your actual performance.
Much better than what you think when you read the prospects about the tests.

Try to see the best in those and try to avoid to react emotionally or with anxiety.

In the end it will boil down also pretty much to the company that wants to find new workers, because they'd preset the conditions and they'd make the decisions.
Now in my case though I was really lucky that my profile really very well suits the position they want to fill.

A niche is just the thing that aspies can prosper in. So it looks like that my persistence and my thoroughness in that particular field really worked out in the end.

So, whatever you do, just don't let them convince you, that you should turn superficial, on the contrary, master your field and do it thoroughly.
It is always easier to smartly cut down some aspects than to just ignore them totally from the beginning.

If I understood right then aspies are quite nerdy and learn a lot from details that people tend to forget. If you put those together into an overall thing
and if you can control and prioritise your obsessions
then you are a really valuable worker for them!

Make your special interest to a job!
Or make your job to a special interest

You'll just surprise them what you can do.